# 107 year old killed by SWAT team **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 8, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323 "2013-09-08T13:00:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/21 "2013-09-08T17:59:52Z")
So young - what a waste. I feel sorry if he had any kids - they might be orphans now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/22 "2013-09-08T18:11:16Z")
I would have entitled this thread, “107 year old engages police in fire-fight…get guns down.” He may have suffered from dementia, but it doesn’t sound like the SWAT team acted out of order considering the situation. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/23 "2013-09-08T18:20:35Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Plus, per the article, after negotiations failed they used tear gas, he shot at them, they broke in and used a flashbang or something similar, and he shot at them again. Tough old coot. Were we all to be able to go down guns blazing at 107. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/24 "2013-09-08T19:15:32Z")
If the guy was tired of living, it isn’t as if he’d have had to wait long. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/25 "2013-09-08T19:44:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If the guy was tired of living, it isn’t as if he’d have had to wait long. I dunno - he’d waited 107 years already, and was still fit enough to get into a firefight with police. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/26 "2013-09-08T20:54:22Z")
Pine Bluff is famed for an odoriferous paper mill and a predominately Black college. Perhaps because of the stinky mill, it has a very high crime rate. Parts of it look very rough, like the dangerous parts of the Mississippi delta. We’re talking _Deliverance_. I attended some meeting there several years ago, and upon driving through an area thought, “Sweet Jesus, don’t let me have a flat.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/27 "2013-09-08T21:26:09Z")
My dad always said that he wanted to die “at 107, by the hand of a jealous husband. And to be GUILTY!” ---
**Author:** ![smee\_goan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@smee\_goan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smee_goan)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/28 "2013-09-08T23:15:42Z")
My 70 year old wifey in the nursing home for the last 5 years… meh on her dinner trays, along with the listed food items is (sometimes highlighted in yellow) No Knife. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/29 "2013-09-09T00:20:18Z")
“I killed Dillinger! Nya! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!” ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/30 "2013-09-09T01:00:15Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I dunno - he’d waited 107 years already, and was still fit enough to get into a firefight with police. …but now he’s fallen and he can’t get up… ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/31 "2013-09-09T03:07:30Z")
He told them that they would have to pry his gun from his cold, dead hands. But it turns out that his hands were just cold due to poor circulation. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/32 "2013-09-09T06:31:11Z")
They should have just sniper shot him in the head. No danger to civilians, no danger to the cops, no embarrassing info on him possibly being the original victim in the whole mess which guaranties no blow back on the cops getting anything wrong. No $$$ spent on trials. Win - win - win… Down side, the cops do not get a big boost for their budget to go out & play military games at the public’s expense. I have a bit of trouble believing the 107 was not provoked a lot long before the gun came out.Sure would like some more accurate info. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/33 "2013-09-09T11:43:21Z")
[Apparently](http://www.katv.com/story/23374396/update-new-details-released-in-death-of-107-year-old-killed-by-police-in-standoff) family was trying to forcibly move him. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/34 "2013-09-09T13:12:33Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > They should have just sniper shot him in the head. > > No danger to civilians, no danger to the cops, no embarrassing info on him possibly being the original victim in the whole mess which guaranties no blow back on the cops getting anything wrong. No $$$ spent on trials. Win - win - win… > > Down side, the cops do not get a big boost for their budget to go out & play military games at the public’s expense. > > I have a bit of trouble believing the 107 was not provoked a lot long before the gun came out.Sure would like some more accurate info. > YMMV Exactly. When we have briefings about potentially dangerous situations the number one consideration is always about next years budget. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/35 "2013-09-09T15:35:04Z")
Wow. A 107 year old guy able to aggravatedly assault 2 people and resist tear gas? I wanna know what he ate. Prolly knives or something. Clone this guy. Make an entire football team of him. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/36 "2013-09-09T17:08:43Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Exactly. When we have briefings about potentially dangerous situations the number one consideration is always about next years budget. :rolleyes: I was being snarky & you know it. ::: sheesh ::: Although in this case I would like to have been a fly on the leaders forehead because I would like to know why they were in such a hurry. Could not pull back for some reason??? Not impressed with all the decisions in this case. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/37 "2013-09-09T17:29:39Z")
Neighbor Elmer Futz, age 117, quoted as saying “this used to be a good neighborhood until these young punks moved in!” ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/38 "2013-09-09T20:36:08Z")
107-year-old with a gun that he had recently purchased (according to [here](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/09/220643744/how-does-a-107-year-old-die-in-a-police-shootout-details-emerge)). Maybe this story belongs in the Stupid Gun News thread instead. Just how responsible is it to sell a gun to anyone that age? Roddy ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/39 "2013-09-09T21:26:46Z")
My local news will have more on this story tonight. > **[Details emerge in shooting death of 107 year old Pine Bluff man](https://katv.com/archive/details-emerge-in-shooting-death-of-107-year-old-pine-bluff-man)** > > Channel 7's Justin Lewis is following up on the Friday afternoon's shooting death of 107 year old Monroe Isadore of Pine Bluff. > [@](#): > > Coming up on Live at Five and Channel 7 News at Six Justin talks to friend, caregiver and former employer Laurie Barlow, who tells us Isadore was in temporary housing, awaiting a permanent place to live when relatives showed up to speak to him. She says that’s when the problems occurred, because she says he feared some family members. > > It appears that Isadore may have purchased the gun that he used in the shoot out with police only a few weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323/40 "2013-09-09T22:12:52Z")
I wonder of his family wanted his house and was tired of waiting for him to die. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/107-year-old-killed-by-swat-team/668323.md?page=3)