# 11.22.2013 (Kennedy Assassination)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 18, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130 "2013-09-18T08:30:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/21 "2013-09-18T14:53:30Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> …as Miley Cyrus, Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton all sneak out of his dressing room.

He wouldn’t touch those emaciated starlets with yours. He had Marilyn Monroe!

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/22 "2013-09-18T14:53:34Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> …as Miley Cyrus, Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton all sneak out of his dressing room.

…someone has to be Veep, Secretary of State and Attorney General

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/23 "2013-09-18T15:29:36Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> November 22, 2013: The day John F. Kennedy makes his public reappearance to tell everyone he was never assassinated in the first place and announces he is running for President in 2016.

And he should win, too, even with half his brain blown off.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/24 "2013-09-18T16:15:07Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> He wouldn’t touch those emaciated starlets with yours. He had Marilyn Monroe!

Hey, any port in a storm.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/25 "2013-09-18T19:12:11Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Hey, any port in a storm.

Not if the port is known to have the plague.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/26 "2013-09-18T20:09:19Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> …someone has to be Veep, Secretary of State and Attorney General

if it twerks for you…

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/27 "2013-09-18T20:12:34Z")

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If Zapruder was the spotter why did he film it and leave evidence?

And why did he turn evidence into the authorities?

OP doesn’t make any sense

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/28 "2013-09-18T20:16:28Z")

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And doesn’t the spotter stand near by the sniper? There were other people right next to Zapruder and somehow none of them ever mentioned that the shooter was right next to him.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/29 "2013-09-18T20:31:24Z")

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Moreover, what’s this bollocks about listening with your right ear? The Zapruder film is silent.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/30 "2013-09-18T20:43:32Z")

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Zapruder didn’t even say that he could hear where the shot came from

_Mr. LIEBELER - Did you form any opinion about the direction from which the shots came by the sound, or were you just upset by the thing you had seen?  
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, there was too much reverberation. There was an echo which gave me a sound all over. In other words that square is kind of–it had a sound all over._

[http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm](http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm)

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**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/31 "2013-09-19T01:24:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> He wouldn’t touch those emaciated starlets with yours. He had Marilyn Monroe!

Fine, then Christina Hendricks.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/32 "2013-09-19T01:31:38Z")

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OP should be framed as an example of how whole strings of patently false bombast are presented as “fact” on the JFK assassination. I get so tired of it.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/33 "2013-09-19T03:48:33Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And he should win, too, even with half his brain blown off.

I’d vote for him.  
Even only half a brain would be better than Geo W.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/34 "2013-09-19T03:53:08Z")

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xD Geroge Bush is dumb

that joke never gets old

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/35 "2013-09-19T07:30:39Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> OP should be framed as an example of how whole strings of patently false bombast are presented as “fact” on the JFK assassination. I get so tired of it.

I blame chemtrails for this.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/36 "2013-09-19T10:18:36Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The first shot came from the Texas School Book Depositary. How does Sirhan Sirhan help me establish that?

Maybe he’s trying to say that Sirhan’s first shot traveled back in time to Texas?

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/37 "2013-09-19T12:58:20Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And he should win, too, even with half his brain blown off.

The last I heard the government had replaced that part of his brain with a bag of sand. Oh, and I heard they died him black and that he’s sharing a room with the real Elvis. Sounds good though - I’d vote for him!

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/38 "2013-09-19T14:21:53Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> Zapruder didn’t even say that he could hear where the shot came from
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> _Mr. LIEBELER - Did you form any opinion about the direction from which the shots came by the sound, or were you just upset by the thing you had seen?  
> Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, there was too much reverberation. There was an echo which gave me a sound all over. In other words that square is kind of–it had a sound all over._
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> [Testimony Of Abraham Zapruder](http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm)

PSXer. STOP bringing solid facts into a perfectly good conspiracy rant! Coherent thought like this has no place in this discussion!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/39 "2013-09-19T15:15:51Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> Zapruder was the “spotter”; that is, the member of a sniper team who assists in the observation of targets.

You would think that the shooter would have been able to identify the guy standing up and waving in the middle of the motorcade as the target even without a spotter.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-22-2013-kennedy-assassination/669130/40 "2013-09-19T16:15:53Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The first shot came from the Texas School Book Depositary.

As did the second and the third.

In honor of agreeing with Shodan, I shall buy a lottery ticket today.

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