# 11 Egyptian "Sudents" Disaapear-Homeland Security, anybody?

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**Created:** [August 9, 2006, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988 "2006-08-09T11:08:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/41 "2006-08-09T15:09:36Z")

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Most likely is they’re simply keeping under the radar and doing something perfectly innocent. Maybe they’re out fly fishing. Or just wanted to get into the US and are living like any other illegal immigrant.

Less likely is that they are terrorists.

Not sure how likely, but perhaps they have checked into Cheney’s Gitmo Hotel.

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**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/42 "2006-08-09T15:09:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
For _that_ pun, you should only be a-nile-ated.

😛😛😛😛😛  
[/QUOTE]  
Or asp-phyxiated.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/43 "2006-08-09T15:11:59Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
I think that attitude Sphinx. Leave the old Giza alone.  
[/QUOTE]

AAAAH!

Go tell it to yer Mummy!

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/44 "2006-08-09T15:17:21Z")

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IMHOtep, some of these puns are horusable.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/45 "2006-08-09T15:22:38Z")

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Thath what I Thoth.

Sailboat

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/46 "2006-08-09T15:31:45Z")

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Stop with the puns already, you Bast-ards!

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/47 "2006-08-09T15:42:03Z")

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[QUOTE=UncleBeer]  
I think you might have missed the point, Bosda. I suspect that Carol Stream was speaking of the actual, really real west wing of the actual, really real Whitehouse. There’s nobody currently employed there that’s going to be running for elective office in 2008.  
[/QUOTE]

Correct. I should have included RTA’s post, instead of just quoting Bosda’s reply.

[Quote=RTA]  
I believe there are people in the West Wing who think that a terror attack on US soil before November would be like pennies straight from heaven.  
[/quote]

Bosda brought up “the current way to get re-elected”, but Bush is ineligible to run, and Cheney isn’t going to.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/48 "2006-08-09T15:52:12Z")

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Eleven college age boys in a foriegn country for the first time act irresponsibly. Is this really front page news? Also, if Homeland is on top of it, wouldn’t these newspaper reports be more of a hinderance to Homeland’s work than a help?

**Oh, right. Its only 13 weeks until the Election.** :smack:

_Buys up the rights to “Mohammed Bueller’s Day Off”_

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/49 "2006-08-09T15:52:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Dog80]  
Why do you hate Egypt so much? :dubious:  
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Well suppose one of them turns out to be Mohammed Atta’s brother?-You MIGHT remember him-he flew a hijacked airplane in the World Trade Center towers. But hey, I’m prejudiced you say?  
What I’m after is the lack of concern. yes, most likely these 11 are just college students..but they might NOT be-ever consider that possibility?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/50 "2006-08-09T15:54:09Z")

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Goody, puns!

Ra! Ra! Ra!

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/51 "2006-08-09T15:58:38Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
Well suppose one of them turns out to be Mohammed Atta’s brother?  
[/QUOTE]  
Indeed, you have a roughly 1/[78,887,007](https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/eg.html) chance of that. Bad odds! (Better buy a lottery ticket while you’re at it.)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/52 "2006-08-09T16:37:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Carol Stream]

Bosda brought up “the current way to get re-elected”, but Bush is ineligible to run, and Cheney isn’t going to.  
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Don’t matter–the Republican Party has been infected with this, like a disease.

It’s very, very bad for our country.

and every time I try to explain it to somebody, in a restaurant or coffee shop, they give me funny looks, like I was from Mars. ☹

Joe Average doesn’t seem to be able to grasp this.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/53 "2006-08-09T16:38:13Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
Goody, puns!

Ra! Ra! Ra!  
[/QUOTE]

Amun to that!

Personally, I think they’re all just seeking Aten-tion! 😛

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/54 "2006-08-09T16:58:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
Don’t matter–the Republican Party has been infected with this, like a disease.

It’s very, very bad for our country.

and every time I try to explain it to somebody, in a restaurant or coffee shop, they give me funny looks, like I was from Mars. ☹

Joe Average doesn’t seem to be able to grasp this.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m far from “Joe Average”, and I grasp it just fine, but what I see is another leftie unwilling to face the flaws in his political creed, so he runs around screaming “It’s not me! It’s a conspiracy! A conspiracy I tell you!”. Perhaps those people you refer to as “Joe Average” simply have a normal ability to detect bullshit and are naturally wary of those slinging it.  
(I can’t resist)  
The Democratic Party has been infected with this, like a disease.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/55 "2006-08-09T17:36:44Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
Well suppose one of them turns out to be Mohammed Atta’s brother?  
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That’s a huge “what if”. I think if one of them was, he’d never have been admitted to the country. Give me a break- you really think the people in charge of issuing student visas are _that_ lax? If one of them was related to a 9/11 hijacker or any other high-profile terrorist, something that frightening would have been reported in the news articles cited (except, of course, that you didn’t bother to cite one). The articles that **Crotalus** cited stated that all of these students underwent background checks, and that there were indeed students who failed these tests. Do you really find it that implausible that a group of 18-21 year old college students from a conservative culture blew off school for a few wild nights in New York City? Until something more substantial comes along, I’ll mark this as one of the stupider instances of fear-mongering I’ve seen in quite a while, and be pleased that at least the news services are treating this like the minor story that it is.

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/56 "2006-08-09T18:01:21Z")

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Gimme the job - Egyptians are fairly easy to spot - the way they walk, like!

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/57 "2006-08-09T18:12:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Bam Boo Gut]  
Gimme the job - Egyptians are fairly easy to spot - the way they walk, like!  
[/QUOTE]

OOOH! A “Bangles” fan.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/58 "2006-08-09T18:19:19Z")

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Considering that [**America’s Most Famous Homegrown Terrorist** [sup]TM[/sup]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber) was based in Montana, why are we so all-fired eager for these young Egyptians to find their way there? 😃

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/59 "2006-08-09T18:31:53Z")

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If you were trying to sneak into a country in order to do something illegal, would you do it with ten of your co-conspirators, all at once?

Me, I’d try to arrange it so that we all came in over a few months, through different means, and met at a prearranged location and time. Seems to me that would raise less suspicion. _Of course_ eleven guys disappearing all at once would be noticed… but who’d notice eleven guys, all seemingly unrelated, taking a walk one weekend?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/11-egyptian-sudents-disaapear-homeland-security-anybody/367988/60 "2006-08-09T18:41:51Z")

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As I Set here, reading these Ra-ful puns, I get the idea that you guys think you’re smart.

I say that’s a croc.

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