# 12/13/25: Shooting near Brown University in Providence, RI **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [December 13, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677 "2025-12-13T22:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/41 "2025-12-17T05:01:26Z")
The various door cams show him walking pretty casually. I think if he wanted to kill himself, he would have stayed and continued to shoot until someone took him out. In probably unrelated news, an MIT professor was just murdered in his home. > **[MIT professor Nuno Loureiro killed in shooting at his Brookline,...](https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/nuno-loureiro-brookline-shooting/)** > > MIT professor Nuno F.G. Loureiro was killed in a shooting at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts. He lived in what’s generally considered a safe neighborhood, and while there’s no obvious link between the two, his home is close enough to Brown University that the Brown killer could have walked and committed that murder, too. (It’s an hour’s drive, a five hour bicycle ride, or a 15 hour walk.) Probably unrelated, but my friends at MIT are feeling jumpy, and MIT is locking a lot of doors that are usually open. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/42 "2025-12-18T02:03:09Z")
> In the ongoing search for Saturday’s mass shooting suspect, **police found physical and DNA evidence** , Mayor Brett Smiley and Providence authorities [shared](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25svlLRpUL8) at a 4:05 p.m. press conference. Law enforcement also mapped a detailed path of the shooter before and after the incident. > > The shooter’s motive remains unknown, according to Providence Chief of Police Oscar Perez. Law enforcement also does not know if the shooter is affiliated to Brown. > > At the conference, Perez [shared](https://www.providenceri.gov/brown/Map-w-Legend.png) a map that shows an area of focus where law enforcement has been “intensively walking.” > **[‘Law enforcement updates the public on evidence, suspect movements in Brown...](https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2025/12/we-have-not-lost-any-vigor-law-enforcement-updates-the-public-on-evidence-suspect-movements)** > > The suspect’s motives and any affiliation to Brown remain unknown, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/43 "2025-12-18T02:11:54Z")
Gah. I lived in that perimeter and still have friends with kids who do. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/44 "2025-12-18T02:15:24Z")
One thing I found interesting was the part about asking a person NOT “of interest” to come in to be spoken with, while showing a couple of pretty clear images of the guy. From what they said, it appears they believe this person spoke with the alleged perp at some point while he was walking around before the shootings. Saw that interaction on some of the video they’ve collected, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/45 "2025-12-18T21:13:32Z")
> **[Police are investigating link between Brown shooting and killing of MIT...](https://apnews.com/article/brown-university-shooting-investigation-5b0b254442dd77d9056111bad902de33)** > > Authorities are investigating a connection between the mass hooting at Brown University and the killing of an MIT professor two days later. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/46 "2025-12-18T21:36:55Z")
I came here to post the same [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/brown-mit-shooting-person-of-interest.html?smid=nytcore-android-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/brown-mit-shooting-person-of-interest.html?smid=nytcore-android-share) Not a gift link, as there isn’t a ton of information beyond 1. they have identified a new “person of interest” 2. law enforcement thinks the same model of car was associated with each murder, and is investigating a possible link. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/47 "2025-12-19T00:54:35Z")
Here’s the Reuters article. I think it’s free to read. Police ID suspect in Brown University shooting, probe link with MIT killing - [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/police-probe-links-between-brown-university-shooting-killing-mit-professor-2025-12-18](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/police-probe-links-between-brown-university-shooting-killing-mit-professor-2025-12-18) ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/48 "2025-12-19T01:07:32Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Police ID suspect in Brown University shooting, probe link with MIT killing I hope the authorities are a little more circumspect about releasing a name this time. I feel so sorry for the guy who had his life dissected by the entire internet in error. That must have been a nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/49 "2025-12-19T01:39:40Z")
Well, I did grudgingly allow that he didn’t seem like a trainwreck… ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/50 "2025-12-19T01:45:12Z")
Yup. You kind of called it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/51 "2025-12-19T01:46:22Z")
I suspect that once they actually arrest someone, the name will come out. And also, that they’ll keep it quiet until then. I hope they’ve found the right guy. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/52 "2025-12-19T02:34:32Z")
YIKES!!! Just this minute got this breaking alert from the Boston Globe: > The suspect in the deadly Brown University shooting has been found dead in Salem, N.H., two law enforcement officials told the Globe. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/53 "2025-12-19T02:34:35Z")
Preliminary report that the suspect was found dead: [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/brown-university-shooting-suspect-found-dead-fox-news-reports-2025-12-19/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/brown-university-shooting-suspect-found-dead-fox-news-reports-2025-12-19/) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/54 "2025-12-19T02:52:16Z")
CBC says suicide [https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brown-university-shooting-suspect-dead-9.7022200](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brown-university-shooting-suspect-dead-9.7022200) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/55 "2025-12-19T03:20:01Z")
For about the past half hour, a press conference has been carried live on CNN. So far, it sounds like the deceased suspect is only definitive linked to the Brown shooting. He was 48 years old, and attended Brown in the early 00s. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/56 "2025-12-19T03:25:20Z")
[https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/18/us/brown-shooting-suspect?unlocked\_article\_code=1.908.kgyw.vlZJpYPFbFYM&smid=nytcore-android-share](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/18/us/brown-shooting-suspect?unlocked_article_code=1.908.kgyw.vlZJpYPFbFYM&smid=nytcore-android-share) And in what’s probably a different article: > Special Agent Docks, with the F.B.I., said that it is believed that the suspect attended the same university in Lisbon as the slain M.I.T. professor. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/57 "2025-12-19T03:25:57Z")
Interesting to note that both the suspect and the MIT professor were Portuguese. They both studied physics at the same university n Portugal before coming to the US (according to the BBC): [Watch live: Brown University shooting suspect found dead, police say - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crk71krz5mvt) (Ok, seriously, ninjaed twice in an hour?) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/58 "2025-12-19T03:29:55Z")
From another part of the NYT blog: > Paxson said the suspect took a leave of absence in April 2001, before formally withdrawing in 2003. “The majority of physics classes at Brown have always been held within the Barus and Holley classrooms and labs,” she said, referring to where the shooting took place. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/59 "2025-12-19T03:31:14Z")
I’m guessing Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Neronha is of Portuguese descent as well. Quite a few in Rhode Island and the part of Massachusetts toward Cape Cod. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677/60 "2025-12-19T03:36:59Z")
NYT blog also said he swapped out license plates on his rental car, making it harder to track. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-13-25-shooting-near-brown-university-in-providence-ri/1025677.md?page=4)