# 12/15/15  The final Republican Debate.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 15, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529 "2015-12-15T14:05:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/181 "2015-12-17T01:21:12Z")

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> [@betair4u](#):
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> I watched the GOP debate…  
> After last night I do not consider Isis as America’s biggest threat…

Hell yeah. Why do these guys hate America?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/182 "2015-12-17T01:40:45Z")

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I know Colin Powell can never fully redeem himself form that UN performance re: Iraq, but imagine if he had been on the debate floor last night. He would’ve mopped the floor with every single one of them.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/183 "2015-12-17T02:03:50Z")

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> [@betair4u](#):
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> I watched the GOP debate. I listened as they talked about fear, and how much danger we are in, and how weak and bad our country and government is??? To protect us the candidates proposed to incarcerate US citizens with out due process, eavesdropping on everybody, shutting down the border, shutting down the internet, killing entire families, carpet bombing countries, mas deportations interment of people and becoming a walled society where we shut out the rest of the world!.. This sounds like a case where the cure is much worse than the disease!!!.. For over two hundred years America has fought against countries who adopted the very same policies that these leaders are proposing!!! After last night I do not consider Isis as America’s biggest threat, I see the leaders of this great country is America’s biggest threat and the fear mongering men they have become to lead… Strength leads by examples not by fear, watching these guys insult each other and the democrats, I wonder where these madmen and their followers are leading our country???

9.85

Subtract .15 for swapping “interment” (ritual deposition of a corpse) with “internment” (to incarcerate). Well-said overall.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/184 "2015-12-17T02:05:39Z")

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You know, they need a good debate using **BBQ Pit** rules. That would be a thing worth watching.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/185 "2015-12-17T04:08:46Z")

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I’d pay ten dollars pay-per-view to see Ted Cruz say “Masturbating like a motherfuck”.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/186 "2015-12-17T04:51:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’d pay ten dollars pay-per-view to see Ted Cruz say “Masturbating like a motherfuck”.

Trump will broker that for you.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/187 "2015-12-17T05:06:52Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> First debate where I saw a bit of it on TV. Kasich is just a goofy guy. Go back and watch him as he comes out, if I didn’t know what he looked like, I would have thought a disabled individual had strolled out there, grinning ear to ear. He also has some of the strangest hand motions I’ve ever seen in a public speaker. He’s like Will Ferrell playing in the sequel to Step Brothers where his character runs for president. He’s also annoying as shit, he babbles on endlessly and nearly zero people care about what he says. \<snip\>

Trevor Noah on _The Daily Show_ on 12/16 had a hilarious bit where they have Kasich playing Fruit Ninja with his hand gestures. Turns out he’s a bad ass when he’s slicing flying melons.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/188 "2015-12-17T10:24:28Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> I did not see much of the debate, but I did see this. While Jeb was talking, you could see sTrumpet spooling-up, like he was getting ready to take Jeb’ s lunch money. As Trump was responding, Jeb looked at him instead of forward to the camera, which made him look very weak, like he was expecting to have to dodge a fist.
> 
> I, too, wish there was instant fact-check, via Watson, maybe. It would be great if every time a “fact” was stated, if it were untrue, they’d get a loud BZZZT and red flash. Sorta like Family Fued. Fiorina would probably get the most buzzing, which would be good for her, as I think she needs it.

She’d probably complain that, as an IBM machine, Watson has it in for the hp lady…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/189 "2015-12-17T10:32:21Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m ashamed at not having thought this through before, but – Chris Christie is the one shooting for that _“I’d like to have a beer with him”_ role, isn’t he?

Better watch your beer, and drink it FAST!

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/190 "2015-12-17T12:00:19Z")

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> [@betair4u](#):
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> I watched the GOP debate. I listened as they talked about fear, and how much danger we are in, and how weak and bad our country and government is??? To protect us the candidates proposed to incarcerate US citizens with out due process, eavesdropping on everybody, shutting down the border, shutting down the internet, killing entire families, carpet bombing countries, mas deportations interment of people and becoming a walled society where we shut out the rest of the world!.. This sounds like a case where the cure is much worse than the disease!!!.. For over two hundred years America has fought against countries who adopted the very same policies that these leaders are proposing!!! After last night I do not consider Isis as America’s biggest threat, I see the leaders of this great country is America’s biggest threat and the fear mongering men they have become to lead… Strength leads by examples not by fear, watching these guys insult each other and the democrats, I wonder where these madmen and their followers are leading our country???

Welcome to the rest of the world.

I still can’t even get over the casino thing … crazy, crazy country …

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/191 "2015-12-17T12:08:54Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> I still can’t even get over the casino thing … crazy, crazy country …

There was definitely unseemliness in the _choice_ of casino (there’s absolutely no coincidence whatsoever that it’s owned by a megabucks donor), but why do you think it’s crazy for a debate to be held in a hotel auditorium? Everything is a casino in Las Vegas, even baggage claim at the airport.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/192 "2015-12-17T12:54:32Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> There was definitely unseemliness in the _choice_ of casino (there’s absolutely no coincidence whatsoever that it’s owned by a megabucks donor), but why do you think it’s crazy for a debate to be held in a hotel auditorium? Everything is a casino in Las Vegas, even baggage claim at the airport.

This^

The choices in \*any \*US city are sports arenas, hotel conference rooms, or maybe an aging stageplay theater. Any of which might be commercial or on a college campus. No place else has seating for a big crowd.

In Vegas, 100% of hotel conference centers are in properties which also have a casino. You could just as easily complain that they held the debate in a place with, horrors, bedrooms! :eek: In which fornication has probably occurred!! Heaven forfend!

Would you ( **up\_the\_junction** ) be happier if a debate was held in a basketball or hockey arena?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/193 "2015-12-17T12:55:24Z")

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Yeah, the only time I’ve been tempted to play slots, because what else are you gonna do at an airport?

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/194 "2015-12-17T13:23:55Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> There was definitely unseemliness in the _choice_ of casino (there’s absolutely no coincidence whatsoever that it’s owned by a megabucks donor), but why do you think it’s crazy for a debate to be held in a hotel auditorium? Everything is a casino in Las Vegas, even baggage claim at the airport.

It’s a media event, 90% of any audience is token. It could be held in a village hall, or a CNN studio.

The point is to present politics as a sober, serious business for grownups. Hold it in the local library, for fuck sake.

Just have a look around the world, countries tend to try and resist the circus as much as is possible, not literally embrace it. Really, the should have had Elvis the jump suit years during the ad breaks.

This was like the Marx Brothers.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/195 "2015-12-17T15:08:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> There’s a rumor floating about that Carly Fiorina has a detachable vagina, and she removes it at night to soak in vinegar.

Isn’t it a little sexist to single out Fiorina’s physical anomalies? (I heard it’s Clorox.)

What about Ted Cruz? Word’s gotten out that he has only one ball.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/196 "2015-12-17T15:16:14Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Isn’t it a little sexist to single out Fiorina’s physical anomalies? (I heard it’s Clorox.)
> 
> What about Ted Cruz? Word’s gotten out that he has only one ball.

And you know [who _else_ only had one ball](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/881/did-hitler-have-only-one-testicle), don’t you? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/197 "2015-12-17T15:18:28Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Carly Fiorina. Swearing up and down, even after being directly debunkified, that this General named Keane was forced into retirement by Obama. Only problem being, he resigned in 2003. Wait a sec, I’ll bring Rubio in to explain the math.

Obviously, Obama stopped off on his way back to 1961 to plant the fake Honolulu birth announcement.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/198 "2015-12-17T15:50:22Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Those are great, thank you!
> 
> It’s hard to pick a favorite, what with Cruz promising precision carpet bombing and Trump “closing down parts of the Internet,” but for sheer simple cluelessness it probably has to be this one:  
> CHRISTIE: “When I stand across from King Hussein of Jordan and I say to him, ‘You have a friend again, sir, who will stand with you to fight this fight,’ he’ll change his mind.”
> 
> He’s been dead for 16 years, so that’s going to be an interesting meeting.

Necromancy. It’s a Jersey thing.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/199 "2015-12-17T15:55:59Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> I still can’t even get over the casino thing … crazy, crazy country …

And yet you seem to be the only person bothered by it. Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/200 "2015-12-17T16:14:11Z")

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A whorehouse would have been more appropriate, true enough. But that would have offended the moral sensibilities of candidates advocating bombing children.

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