# 12/15/15  The final Republican Debate.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 15, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529 "2015-12-15T14:05:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/201 "2015-12-17T16:25:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> A whorehouse would have been more appropriate, true enough. But that would have offended the moral sensibilities of candidates advocating bombing children.

… “carpet bombing”

Like it’s a thing you just do - maybe like matching the picture frames with the drapes.

It’s a little easier at times to see how you built up to half a million dead civilians in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/202 "2015-12-17T16:27:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> And yet you seem to be the only person bothered by it. Hmmm.

Exactly. This is not something to even vaguely consider in the USA. How could it possibly be demeaning to the democracy.

It’s like watching fucking Deadwood before the gold rush.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/203 "2015-12-17T16:28:05Z")

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I’ve heard that, under Nevada election law, if there is an exact tie in any election, it’s resolved by the two candidates playing a single hand of five-card-stud.

Yeah, it’s exactly equivalent to the coin flip most places use, but it’s still a fun factoid.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/204 "2015-12-17T16:35:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’d pay ten dollars pay-per-view to see Ted Cruz say “Masturbating like a motherfuck”.

Ill pay 100 dollars to my therapist to get the image of Cruz talking about sex in any way back out of my head.

And since I don’t HAVE a therapist, this is saying something!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/205 "2015-12-17T16:46:20Z")

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And how do you feel about that? Did you react the same way to your parents talking about sex? How about your dog?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/206 "2015-12-17T16:47:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And how do you feel about that? Did you react the same way to your parents talking about sex? How about your dog?

Our dog never talked about sex.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/207 "2015-12-17T17:02:45Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Our dog never talked about sex.

Really? Mine won’t shut up about it. Excuse me, I have to go take care of another slut . . .

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/208 "2015-12-17T17:03:42Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Our dog never talked about sex.

Lassie did do that one bit on cross-dressing, though.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/209 "2015-12-17T17:24:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> A whorehouse would have been more appropriate, true enough…

Good Og, man, that is in bad taste. We are talking about Republicans here, a bath house would be more like it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/210 "2015-12-20T05:43:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> When Trump and Bush were going at it, and the camera showed both of them, split screen, Trump looked like a confident bully and Bush looked like he was always trying to decide whether to keep confronting the bully or run away in fear.

Has anyone seem the SNL skit yet? Do they ever riff on this idea ore what?

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/211 "2015-12-20T16:25:21Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Has anyone seem the SNL skit yet? Do they ever riff on this idea ore what?

The best line of the skit is when Jeb gets worked up and tells Trump he’s never going to be the next president.  
Trump reaponds “No kidding, none of us are, genius.”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/212 "2015-12-20T16:31:57Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> The best line of the skit is when Jeb gets worked up and tells Trump he’s never going to be the next president.  
> Trump reaponds “No kidding, none of us are, genius.”

I haven’t seen the whole skit yet-- just a few clips from the news. I’ve got it recorded and look forward to seeing it. From what I saw, it looked spot on. And the guy they have playing Trump-- I had to do a double take because it looked so much like the real thing!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/213 "2015-12-20T16:36:42Z")

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You are a cruel person, say such a thing.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/214 "2015-12-20T16:44:19Z")

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I liked the Ted Cruz bit:

[QUOTE=Saturday Nigh Live’s Cruz player]  
Isis will hate me, because everyone does. Democrats hate me, Republicans hate me, I have what doctors describe as a most punchable face.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/215 "2015-12-20T22:00:11Z")

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Pretty sure that was Darrell Hammond as Trump, Beck Bennett as Cruz.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/216 "2015-12-21T06:38:57Z")

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Beck Bennett was Jeb! and Taran Killam was Cruz.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/217 "2015-12-21T07:27:26Z")

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Finally saw the whole skit. Jebus, but they nailed it!!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/218 "2015-12-21T21:21:22Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’ve heard that, under Nevada election law, if there is an exact tie in any election, it’s resolved by the two candidates playing a single hand of five-card-stud.
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> Yeah, it’s exactly equivalent to the coin flip most places use, but it’s still a fun factoid.

That \*might \*be UL or it \*might \*have been true in the past.

Current reality [NRS: CHAPTER 293 - ELECTIONS](http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec400) is rather more prosaic: Tied candidates draw lots under the supervision of the Secretary of State.

Interestingly, this section explicitly doesn’t address Presidential elections. That’s handled in NRS Section 298 [NRS: CHAPTER 298 - PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS](http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-298.html#NRS298). Which is about electors & such, and requires they vote for the candidate who got the most popular votes. But says nothing about what to do if a tie occurred in that popular vote.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-15-15-the-final-republican-debate/740529/219 "2015-12-23T18:18:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Did Carson actually say he would be able to order military strikes that could kill children because, in the past, he has operated on children? What the hell did I miss in that exchange?

See #6:

> **[10 G.O.P. Debate Quotes, From Fear-Mongering to Simply Bizarre](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/16/1460675/-10-G-O-P-Debate-Quotes-From-Fear-Mongering-to-Simply-Bizarre?detail=email)**
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> Donald Trump 
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> “Our country is out of control. People are pouring across the southern border.”

In the bizarre, Carsonian world of inappropriate analogies or twisted metaphors, he means that anyone who survives the massive bombing which causes thousands of deaths will feel grateful once they understand The Big Picture, that it was all For Their Own Good…just like surgery is for kids with brain tumors.

(The obvious difference to the rest of us, of course, is that kids who survive brain tumor surgery are…you know, ALIVE at the end of it–and probably much better off than they were before surgery.)

_Sigh_ When Carson isn’t putting me to sleep with his half-closed eyes and soft little voice, he’s stunning me with his extreme delusions and lack of logic.

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