# 12 people shot dead at BATMAN movie screening in Denver.

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**Created:** [July 20, 2012, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835 "2012-07-20T09:31:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/141 "2012-07-20T19:49:33Z")

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> [@D-bear](#):
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> Seems like this is going to be used to tighten gun control procedures…

I doubt it unless there is some specific failure here - if he should’ve have been allowed to buy a because he’d been treated for mental health problems, for example.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/142 "2012-07-20T19:50:44Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Which time?

The Giffords shooting came to mind.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/143 "2012-07-20T19:54:08Z")

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I caught the end of a phone interview on CNN with Michael Medved. Was he actually there, or did the pompous cumrag just finally get somebody to take his call?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/144 "2012-07-20T19:58:21Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I doubt it unless there is some specific failure here - if he should’ve have been allowed to buy a because he’d been treated for mental health problems, for example.

I wondered about that.

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**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/145 "2012-07-20T19:59:37Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Care to back that up with some citation or source, or would you mind at least trying to keep your paranoid accusations to yourself until there’s an actual reason to worry?

I said “Seems” like. I’m sitting in front of the TV listening to the tone of the news anchors. I can only say that it sounds like what is being implied by Kyle Clark and Kim Christensen.

So sorry I can’t give you a cite for an implication.

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**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/146 "2012-07-20T20:08:52Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I can’t post this in the other Batman thread because of spoilers. I’m just wondering if/how this tragedy, along with the suicide of Heath Ledger, will effect the way people think about think about the franchise.

Americans have been shooting eachother pretty much since whenever.

And still people support the right to bear arms. This is what happens. Congratulations. Because there’s still no relation between people owning guns and shooting others with them.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/147 "2012-07-20T20:09:55Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> The Giffords shooting came to mind.

I thought you meant the CNN and Fox errors on the Supreme Court’s health care ruling. I really was not kidding.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/148 "2012-07-20T20:14:04Z")

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> [@D-bear](#):
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> I said “Seems” like. I’m sitting in front of the TV listening to the tone of the news anchors. I can only say that it sounds like what is being implied by Kyle Clark and Kim Christensen.
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> So sorry I can’t give you a cite for an implication.

Thanks for verifying.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/149 "2012-07-20T20:25:41Z")

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Interesting clip from Newswipe, a English show about news broadcasting, about the German school shooting a couple of years ago: [Charlie Brooker - News creates panic about German killer - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etUyQPyL5JE)

The critisism raised apply to this shooting as well. The news media reveling in every gory detail feels irresponsible in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/150 "2012-07-20T20:33:33Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> How did he get in with a rifle, a shotgun and two pistols? I’m usually sweating like Billy Hayes in _Midnight Express_ because I have a Cadbury in my pocket

that is because as a mostly law abiding citizen, you think you will be caught breaking a rule or law. you are not confident in your lawlessness.

this fellow was very confident of his plan, figured he would be able to go through with it, and possibly get away (he was heading for his car).

i’m glad to see you have good taste in smuggled goods.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/151 "2012-07-20T20:35:27Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Apparently the shooter was studying neuroscience: [http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html?hpt=hp\_t1](http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

That’s hilarious - they are saying his choice of classes like its an indicator of something - if he was in a doctorate program from neuroscience, I would _expect_ those classes.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/152 "2012-07-20T20:38:36Z")

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I thought the same thing. I’m wondering if all his fellow classmates from those courses are under the microscope now too. Shit, they might go off at any minute!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/153 "2012-07-20T20:43:18Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> That’s hilarious - they are saying his choice of classes like its an indicator of something - if he was in a doctorate program from neuroscience, I would _expect_ those classes.

If you notice, it says he _may_ have taken a class where the topics would have included [things that sounds like what you study when you major in neuroscience]. This is completely useless and it’s not even definitive. It’s there because there’s nothing of value to publish.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/154 "2012-07-20T20:43:23Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Now cue Westboro Baptist Church announcing they’re going to picket the funerals, three major news shows of gun control and anti-gun control activists screaming at each other, and this somehow being expected in Obama’s America.
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> I have a theory that the stupid comments and WBC and asinine over-the-top accusations and CNN ass-showing following horrifying events is almost a necessary ritual to return to charted territory.

I posted this in the ATMB thread and I usually don’t cross post but this fits your comment perfectly. We are right on schedule.

[http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/)

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/155 "2012-07-20T20:44:55Z")

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I hear a lot of buzz about fear of copy-cat criminals and was wondering how warranted they are in cases like these.  
With a list of mass shootings have any of these ever spawned copy-cats?  
Are there any examples?

-2011 Anders Behring, Oslo youth camp  
-2009 Nidal Hasan, Fort Hood  
-2009 Farda Gadyrov, Baku Oil Academy  
-2008 Matti Saari, vocational college Finland  
-2007 Seung-Hui Cho, Virginia Tech  
-2002 Robert Steinhaeuser, Erfurt Germany  
-1999 Columbine  
-1996 Martin Bryant, Tazmania Australia restaurant  
-1996 Thomas Hamilton, Scotland elementary school  
Etc, etc, etc.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/156 "2012-07-20T20:52:18Z")

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Columbine did. Seems to happen every year.

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**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/157 "2012-07-20T20:53:33Z")

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Just wondering what everyone thought might happen to this facility after all is said and done. They didn’t raze Columbine High after the shooting there, but I can kind of understand that one. I actually have tickets to see the 25th anniversary Star Trek:TNG event there on Monday, but there’s a snowball’s chance of that happening at this point.

The building is fairly new, all stadium seating digital sound and picture, so it’s not exactly a given that it’ll be closed and torn down. What do the teeming millions say? Would you go there to catch a flick?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/158 "2012-07-20T20:56:24Z")

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> [@D-bear](#):
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> Just wondering what everyone thought might happen to this facility after all is said and done. They didn’t raze Columbine High after the shooting there, but I can kind of understand that one. I actually have tickets to see the 25th anniversary Star Trek:TNG event there on Monday, but there’s a snowball’s chance of that happening at this point.
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> The building is fairly new, all stadium seating digital sound and picture, so it’s not exactly a given that it’ll be closed and torn down. What do the teeming millions say? Would you go there to catch a flick?

Theater # 9 will be permanently closed and locked, never again allowing public access. That’s what I’d do if I was the owner.

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**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/159 "2012-07-20T21:01:13Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Theater # 9 will be permanently closed and locked, never again allowing public access. That’s what I’d do if I was the owner.

Century has been bought by Cinemark, and there’s not any thing on their corporate site. The last press release they issued was on June 11th about Dark Knight marathon showings.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-people-shot-dead-at-batman-movie-screening-in-denver/628835/160 "2012-07-20T21:09:39Z")

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> [@MostlyClueless](#):
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> And still people support the right to bear arms. This is what happens. Congratulations. Because there’s still no relation between people owning guns and shooting others with them.

Canada seems to get along ok. 🙂

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