# 12 Places to Go If the World Goes to Hell **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 5, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075 "2009-12-05T06:01:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/1 "2009-12-05T06:01:27Z")
Okay, survivalists. See them [here](http://www.businessinsider.com/ten-places-to-go-if-world-goes-to-crap-2009-10#chiang-mai-1). But the basic list is (and note that northern Thailand is gets first mention :D): 1. Chiang Mai, Thailand 2. Tristan da Cunha, in the South Atlantic 3. Guam 4. Denver, Colorado 5. Bern, Switzerland 6. Puncak Jaya, Indonesia (a bonus feature is that it contains the largest gold mine in the world) 7. Cape Town, South Africa 8. Necker Island, part of the Hawaiian Island chain 9. Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 10. Kansas City 11. Tierra del Fuego, Chile 12. The Canadian Yukon ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/2 "2009-12-05T07:57:45Z")
… Kansas City? Really? I mean sure, you can survive the zombpocalypse there, but would you want to keep on livin? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/3 "2009-12-05T09:41:18Z")
I have a hankering for New Zealand or Tasmania, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/4 "2009-12-05T09:46:30Z")
I know exactly where I’ll be going - Ilocos Norte, on the very northern tip of the Phillipine Islands. A rural province that’s totally remote, with beautiful beaches, and my girlfriend’s family owns gas stations and a tobacco company there. I would be totally set. Fresh fish and roast suckling pig every day. Fuck, I don’t know why we’re not there _now._ ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/5 "2009-12-05T09:54:37Z")
Chiang Mai would of course be the closest for me to get to, and it is a nice city. I used to live in the next province over, Mae Hong Son. The whole area is nice and elevated, which could help against rising sea levels. In the event of some sort of near-complete apocalypse in which surviving locals would push out the foreigners, I’d probably make my way to Denver on that list. Especially in the event of an environmental catastrophe that swallowed up Guam or Necker Island. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/6 "2009-12-05T11:30:08Z")
How would going to another country (presumably then jampacked with refugees) help me in this vaguely described crisis situation? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/7 "2009-12-05T13:14:03Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Fuck, I don’t know why we’re not there _now._ No internet access? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/8 "2009-12-05T13:42:12Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > … Kansas City? Really? I mean sure, you can survive the zombpocalypse there, but would you want to keep on livin? 😃 According to things I’ve heard, they got some pretty little women there. Come the apocalypse, I’m gonna get me one. ---
**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/9 "2009-12-05T15:26:57Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > … Kansas City? Really? I mean sure, you can survive the zombpocalypse there, but would you want to keep on livin? 😃 I’m heading here when the zombies and aliens attack. > **[SubTropolis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubTropolis)** > > SubTropolis is a business complex located inside of a 55,000,000-square-foot (5,100,000 m2), 1,260-acre (5.1 km2) mine in the bluffs north of the Missouri River in Kansas City, Missouri. It was developed by late Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt via Hunt Midwest Real Estate Development, Inc., with the trademarked phrase World's Largest Underground Business Complex. > SubTropolis is up to 160 feet (49 m) beneath the surface, dug into the Bethany Falls limestone mine. It has a grid of 16-foot-h... SubTropolis is a 55,000,000 square foot (5,060,000 m³), 1,100-acre (4.5 km2) manmade cave in the bluffs above the Missouri River in Kansas City, Missouri, United States that is claimed to be the world’s largest underground storage facility. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/10 "2009-12-05T15:28:48Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > … Kansas City? Really? I mean sure, you can survive the zombpocalypse there, but would you want to keep on livin? 😃 > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > According to things I’ve heard, they got some pretty little women there. Come the apocalypse, I’m gonna get me one. “Ev’rythin’s up to date in Kansas City. They’ve gone about as fur as they c’n go! They got a big theayter they call a burleekew. Fer fifty cents you c’n see a dandy show. One of the gals was fat and pink and pretty, As round above as she was round below. I could swear that she was padded from her shoulder to her heel, But later in the second act, when she began to peel, She proved that ev’rythin’ she had was absolutely real~ She went about as fur as she could go!” ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/11 "2009-12-05T23:44:53Z")
… why isn’t Madagascar on the list? ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/12 "2009-12-05T23:49:38Z")
The first rule of planning a post-apocalyptic hideout is that you don’t talk about the post-apocalyptic hideout. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/13 "2009-12-06T12:20:54Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > How would going to another country (presumably then jampacked with refugees) help me in this vaguely described crisis situation? I ask myself the same question. Rio would be the obvious choice for me (just left there two days ago, in fact), but I don’t see why Rio—which today barely manages a shaky stasis between the “haves” and millions of people who are essentially refugees in their own country—is going to be preferable to a carbon monoxide nap when boat- and planeloads of desperate interlopers decide to crash Carnaval. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/14 "2009-12-06T14:19:28Z")
The only questionable one on the list for me is Necker Island. What, just because Richard Branson owns it?? And if we’re talking about climate catastrophe that raises the sea level, a lot of good that will do. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/15 "2009-12-06T14:47:54Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > … why isn’t Madagascar on the list? At the first sign of trouble, they shut down all of their ports. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/16 "2009-12-06T16:28:51Z")
Yay, I’m already in Denver, so no moving required! Email me your pitiful pleas about why I should put you up at my place when the excrement hits the moving air device, and I’ll pick and choose among you. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/17 "2009-12-06T18:04:55Z")
I’m guessing that the Falklands would be a good place to chill-isolated from the mainland, small population, abundant local food supply. Patagonia might be a close second-isolated, and unlikely to e visited by zombies, vampires, or aliens. ---
**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-places-to-go-if-the-world-goes-to-hell/520075/18 "2009-12-06T23:05:13Z")
Tierra del Fuego is actually and island that belongs both to Chile and Argentina. The photograph, if I am not mistaken, is a of Usuahia the capital of Tierra del Fuego (an argentinian state).