# 12 years sober - well, almost

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [March 1, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670 "2016-03-01T18:42:45Z")
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### Author: ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/1 "2016-03-01T18:42:45Z")

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So I got a text from my wife this morning congratulating me on 12 years sober.

My first reaction was, holy schnoikies, she is right! Totally forgot about that. It is actually a couple weeks early, but what the hell, what is a few weeks after 12 years?

My story in SDMB posts:

Slee gets [sober](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277863)

[Two years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363394)

[Three years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412885)

[Four years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=460580)

[Five years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511213)

Six years:  
Apparently I slacked that year

[Seven years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=601148)

[Eight years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=645937)

[Nine years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=685902)

[Ten years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=718900)

Eleven years  
EGADS! Another slack year

Long story short for those who don’t want to click a lot of links. I went from a homeless drunk to married to a beautiful and awesome woman with amazing little twin boys, an awesome job, nice house and all that jazz. The boys, by the way, will be five months old in a couple weeks.

After reading a few of those threads I think I found the most important thing I learned: what matters and what can be let go.

If anyone who thinks they may have an alcohol or drug problem please know this: You can get clean and, if you do, life will become so much better.

Slee

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### Author: ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/2 "2016-03-01T18:45:44Z")

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Congrats, again!

Regards,  
Shodan

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/3 "2016-03-01T18:48:14Z")

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Congratulations, **slee**!

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/4 "2016-03-01T18:55:44Z")

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Congratulations! 🙂

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### Author: ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/5 "2016-03-01T19:10:57Z")

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Good for you. And while an issue, it sounds like quiting drinking was only the start to something much better.

Again. Congrats.

PS. I still think you are a dick about that whole the toilet paper roll should face that way debate…

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### Author: ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/6 "2016-03-01T21:20:49Z")

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Congratulations!

Are you willing (or interested) in doing a little Q&A?  
Just yesterday I had decided that I was going to start a new post asking some questions about being/getting sober and other related subjects; but you might be the source of most of what I’m curious about.

I suspect most of the information is available in the previous threads you posted; but I’m going to ask here anyway.

Do/Did you go to AA meetings?  
From my perspective one of the reasons that AA works for some people (and shares some things with, say, a Cursillo experience at a church), is that It’s easy to believe your life is more screwed up/difficult than other people would ever understand. When you experience what others have gone through you can realize that you’re don’t have to be alone in your journey. What are your thoughts on that?

Do you feel that part of your success is because of your network of family and friend (and new wife) who supported you?  
Conversely did you have to distance yourself from those family and friends who didn’t support you, or would make it difficult to stay sober?

Those are a few pretty big questions considering I don’t even know if you’re interested in answering them. If you feel like I’m hijacking this, or If you’d rather I open up a new thread just let me know.

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/7 "2016-03-01T21:35:11Z")

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I said, “Well done” a decade ago. So I’ll just repeat myself and emphasise. 🙂

Well done indeed!

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### Author: ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/8 "2016-03-01T21:53:23Z")

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Congratulations! I’m so happy that life is so good for you.

StG

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### Author: ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/9 "2016-03-01T21:57:58Z")

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That is awesome! Your story is an inspiration. 🙂

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### Author: ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/10 "2016-03-01T23:35:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Do/Did you go to AA meetings?

Yep. Though these days I don’t go very often. I do, however, have a rule which is if something really freaks me out I go to meetings daily until I am sure I am good.

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> From my perspective one of the reasons that AA works for some people (and shares some things with, say, a Cursillo experience at a church), is that It’s easy to believe your life is more screwed up/difficult than other people would ever understand. When you experience what others have gone through you can realize that you’re don’t have to be alone in your journey. What are your thoughts on that?

I think that having someone who has been there and done you can talk to about the issues is a big part of A.A. I think it matters because I _really_ believe that normal folks cannot really grasp what addiction is like. From time to time I will hear someone say something along the lines of “Well, all person X has to do is quit drinking!”. To which my first thought it “Why don’t you just ask him to stop breathing?”. If quitting were that easy, everyone would do it. Since it is not, having resources who a) understand the problem and b) can offer ways to deal with the problem is huge, at least IMHO. Also, though I won’t go too deep into it here unless someone requests it, I believe that the A.A. program was very well designed to get at the core problems that alkies faces when getting sober.

> [@](#):
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> Do you feel that part of your success is because of your network of family and friend (and new wife) who supported you?  
> Conversely did you have to distance yourself from those family and friends who didn’t support you, or would make it difficult to stay sober?

My family helped a huge amount, though it was mainly my parents and one sister. That is partially due to other siblings living in different states and partially due to some of those siblings knowing I was screwed up and (rightfully) not wanting to get sucked into it. What finally got me to really work at getting sober was my family dropping the hammer with “Either you get sober or we won’t be a part of your life. We will help you get better, but if you continue we won’t have anything to do with you”. That is, quite frankly, the best thing my family ever did for me. I know how much it hurt them to do it and I love them deeply for doing it.

I had been sober for a good number of years before I met my wife. I did tell her that I was a recovering alkie on our first date. She is awesome and supports me,though these days staying sober is nowhere near as hard as it once was.

As for friends, well, by the last couple years of my drinking career I didn’t really have friends. I ran off most of my real friends though I had some acquaintences who didn’t like to get wasted alone. I was a lone drunk for the last 5 or 6 years.

> [@](#):
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> Those are a few pretty big questions considering I don’t even know if you’re interested in answering them. If you feel like I’m hijacking this, or If you’d rather I open up a new thread just let me know.

Hijack away. I am pretty open about all this, except if I think it would cause a problem. For example, I won’t go into an interview 'Hi, I am Slee and I am an alcoholic!". But outside of business, I don’t really care who knows.

Slee

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/11 "2016-03-02T00:32:37Z")

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Well, since I’ve been an even worse slacker for all of the past twelve years, here is my congrats for each and every one…

Congrats!  
Congrats!  
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Congrats!  
Congrats!  
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Congrats!  
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Congrats!  
Congrats!  
Congrats, **slee**!

Hope you have many, many more. Bless you.

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### Author: ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/12 "2016-03-02T00:46:20Z")

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Yay! Good job and thank you for sharing. (We all need a little reminder now and then that difficult things are possible).

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### Author: ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/13 "2016-03-02T15:09:42Z")

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Just wanted to say congratulations. I went back and read all your old threads. You are inspiration to people who have been touched by this issue in one way or another.

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### Author: ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/14 "2016-03-02T16:27:46Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Conversely did you have to distance yourself from those family and friends who didn’t support you, or would make it difficult to stay sober?

My biggest drinking problem is the reactions I sometimes get about not drinking, but a cousin of mine had to choose between going on the straight and narrow, or his gf of 15 years (not drinking, in his case, but selling drugs). The hit against the bottom had been so hard that the new pathway won; some 20 years later he’s worked at the same place for almost 18 years (at the moment he hit bottom he had never held a job), his house is paid off and while he’s never been married he’s had several relationships and stays on good terms with all his exes.

I know several other people who say the hardest part of a big life change (a couple who decided to stop taking drugs when they discovered she was pregnant; a guy who decided to stop taking and selling drugs after one of his friends OD’d on what he’d been selling…) was having to break up with people who didn’t understand and didn’t want to.

Gratz **slee**. Here’s to many more years (raises green tea).

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### Author: ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/15 "2016-03-02T22:06:27Z")

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Thanks for answering my questions. My dad was an alcoholic. My late wife was an addict. She was (for a while, until she got fired) a pharmacy tech. Her death, surprisingly, wasn’t addiction related. Well not directly, anyway. Until the autopsy results, I wasn’t sure. I expected her death to be an overdose; but it turned out it was complications from an enlarged heart and neurological issues she was dealing with. Regardless, because of her I coined a phrase that explains my belief of what it’s like being pulled into that quagmire. “Sometimes you don’t know you were in the middle of a bad situation until you make through the other side.” Cheesy, but so accurate from my perspective. Basically your version of normal gets so distorted and you think that’s normal. I’m married 10 years now to an awesome woman. It’s a nice healthy relationship. It’s been a gift, but it’s also allowed me to look back at my life before and see how messed up it was.

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### Author: ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/12-years-sober-well-almost/747670/16 "2016-03-02T22:50:53Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> So I got a text from my wife this morning congratulating me on 12 years sober.
> 
> My first reaction was, holy schnoikies, she is right! Totally forgot about that. It is actually a couple weeks early, but what the hell, what is a few weeks after 12 years?
> 
> My story in SDMB posts:
> 
> Slee gets [sober](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=277863)
> 
> [Two years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363394)
> 
> [Three years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412885)
> 
> [Four years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=460580)
> 
> [Five years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511213)
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> Six years:  
> Apparently I slacked that year
> 
> [Seven years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=601148)
> 
> [Eight years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=645937)
> 
> [Nine years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=685902)
> 
> [Ten years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=718900)
> 
> Eleven years  
> EGADS! Another slack year
> 
> Long story short for those who don’t want to click a lot of links. I went from a homeless drunk to married to a beautiful and awesome woman with amazing little twin boys, an awesome job, nice house and all that jazz. The boys, by the way, will be five months old in a couple weeks.
> 
> After reading a few of those threads I think I found the most important thing I learned: what matters and what can be let go.
> 
> If anyone who thinks they may have an alcohol or drug problem please know this: You can get clean and, if you do, life will become so much better.
> 
> Slee

24+ and it is still just like you say.

Hang tough. 🆒
