# 13 October 2015 Democratic debate (for commentary during & after)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 14, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593 "2015-10-14T00:20:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/21 "2015-10-14T02:26:29Z")

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I’m surprised Bernie isn’t president already.

MORE TAXES! FREE COLLEGE! FREE EVERYTHING! RICH PEOPLE ARE EVIL!

Someone get that guy the key to the White House and a drool cup stat!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/22 "2015-10-14T02:31:40Z")

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EAT THE RICH!!!  
fnord

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/23 "2015-10-14T02:36:03Z")

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Yes we get it, you’d be the first woman President. Check.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/24 "2015-10-14T02:44:57Z")

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I’m confused, is the debate happening right now? I thought it was over already?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/25 "2015-10-14T02:45:46Z")

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“I know we can do it because we are going to make the wealthy pay for it,” said Hillary.

**Whoa.**

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/26 "2015-10-14T02:46:09Z")

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Bernie just endorsed legalizing recreational marijuana! Move here to Nevada, Bernie! 😛

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/27 "2015-10-14T02:46:59Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I’m confused, is the debate happening right now? I thought it was over already?

Right now on CNN.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/28 "2015-10-14T02:47:15Z")

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Still going. Now discussing how they’d get anything through Congress.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/29 "2015-10-14T02:48:16Z")

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Okay yeah I found this live commentary site [First Democratic Debate 2015: Highlights and Analysis - The New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/live/first-democratic-debate-cnn-election-2016/)

Are debates always over two hours long? For some reason I thought they were shorter than that.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/30 "2015-10-14T02:49:58Z")

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Bernie strikes me as an angry college professor. I’d take his class, but no way does he strike me as presidential

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/31 "2015-10-14T02:51:45Z")

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Still behind HRC (though her repetitive “first woman president bit” rubs me the wrong way) but I could live with a candidate Sanders. He could hold his own against a GOP nominee.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/32 "2015-10-14T02:52:14Z")

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> [@canned\_mayhem](#):
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> I’m surprised Bernie isn’t president already.
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> MORE TAXES! FREE COLLEGE! FREE EVERYTHING! RICH PEOPLE ARE EVIL!
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> Someone get that guy the key to the White House and a drool cup stat!

That’s a distorted view of Sanders’ position.

Just thought I’d let you know. \<3

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/33 "2015-10-14T02:58:39Z")

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OMalley is definitely coming off as running for VP with this closing statement, and doing it well.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/34 "2015-10-14T03:02:09Z")

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Okay, this isn’t necessarily how I’d vote or who I’d like to see win, but just how I think it shakes out from this debate:

Hillary Clinton presents herself well, looks knowledgable, competent and strong. I think she’ll retain her front-runner status and see a bump up in the next few days.

Bernie Sanders comes across as justifiably angry, seems knowledgeable and focused, and comes across as someone who will not yield easily. I think he’ll also see a bump up in polls.

Martin O’Malley comes across as smart, calm, knowledgable and thoughtful. I think he’ll also gain some ground from this, but not much.

Jim Webb does not come across well. He seemed like someone from 1978 brought forward to the 21st century. He has no chance at being POTUS and will see a drop in polls, if that’s possible (I haven idea what his polling numbers are today).

Lawrence Chafee also did not come across well and his flubbing of a direct question about his voting record looked awkward as hell. He also has no chance at being POTUS and will likely disappear from polls (although I have no idea what his polling numbers are currently, either) in the next few days.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/35 "2015-10-14T03:03:43Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> OMalley is definitely coming off as running for VP with this closing statement, and doing it well.

Aye, I kept thinking that he’s gotta be looking like a terrific VP candidate to Clinton’s camp.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/36 "2015-10-14T03:03:45Z")

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Winnah - Hillary  
Loozah - Chafee

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/37 "2015-10-14T03:04:19Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Bernie strikes me as an angry college professor. I’d take his class, but no way does he strike me as presidential

According to the recent profile of him in The New Yorker, “angry college professor” is the persona he has deliberately cultivated ever since first assuming office. He rarely makes small talk.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/38 "2015-10-14T03:09:11Z")

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1%er Anderson Cooper has no business accusing the Clintons of being 1%ers, especially when he didn’t mention the Chaffee political dynasty. His attack on Sanders as somehow being responsible for dead veterans was disgusting.

Jim Webb is in the wrong party. The one thing I drew from these debates is that I wouldn’t vote for him.

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/39 "2015-10-14T03:15:38Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Okay, this isn’t necessarily how I’d vote or who I’d like to see win, but just how I think it shakes out from this debate:
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> Hillary Clinton presents herself well, looks knowledgable, competent and strong. I think she’ll retain her front-runner status and see a bump up in the next few days.
> 
> Bernie Sanders comes across as justifiably angry, seems knowledgeable and focused, and comes across as someone who will not yield easily. I think he’ll also see a bump up in polls.
> 
> Martin O’Malley comes across as smart, calm, knowledgable and thoughtful. I think he’ll also gain some ground from this, but not much.
> 
> Jim Webb does not come across well. He seemed like someone from 1978 brought forward to the 21st century. He has no chance at being POTUS and will see a drop in polls, if that’s possible (I haven idea what his polling numbers are today).
> 
> Lawrence Chafee also did not come across well and his flubbing of a direct question about his voting record looked awkward as hell. He also has no chance at being POTUS and will likely disappear from polls (although I have no idea what his polling numbers are currently, either) in the next few days.

Your math does not compute. Chafee and Webb combined poll at 2%. There’s no way that Sanders, Clinton, and O’Malley could all gain support from this debate, unless we’re talking in fractions of percents.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-october-2015-democratic-debate-for-commentary-during-after/734593/40 "2015-10-14T03:17:05Z")

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The clear winner was the Democratic Party.  
Crane

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