# 13 year old Tyre King murdered by police **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2016, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074 "2016-09-16T11:11:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/61 "2016-09-16T16:29:41Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I think that, as far as hobbies go, being stupid on the internet probably isn’t going to develop you as a person as much as you need. I’d listen to the voice of experience if I were you, **parovoz**. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/62 "2016-09-16T16:31:20Z")
> [@parovoz](#): > > Are you saying a female politician, who calls for building a wall, doesn’t deserve to be called a cunt? I couldn’t help but notice how manly your hands are. Do you work out? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/63 "2016-09-16T16:49:25Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Or maybe it went like this: > > Officer Friendly: “Got a call about a robbery.” > > Officer Obie: “There’s a kid now. He’s black, so it’s probably him.” > > Officer Friendly: “Freeze punk, or I’ll blow your head off! He’s running! He must be the robber!” BLAM BLAM BLAM > > Officer Obie: “Why would a black kid run away when the cops roll up on him? I don’t get it.” > > Officer Friendly: "Well, he’s dead…crap. I just killed a random kid for no reason. " > > Officer Obie: “Don’t worry about it! I’ll testify he was reaching for his waistband. In fact, let’s plant a gun on him. And since it was a kid you killed, instead of a real gun we’ll plant this BB gun I keep around to make the story more plausible.” You know the difference between you and J. Random 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist? You make them look credible. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/64 "2016-09-16T16:57:29Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > You know the difference between you and J. Random 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist? > > You make them look credible. Google the term “throw down gun”. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/65 "2016-09-16T17:00:09Z")
Also Google how often the throw down gun is a BB gun. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/66 "2016-09-16T17:14:06Z")
Any cop would have shot him. The fact that you guys are making it seem like a conspiracy is odd. You don’t run from the police, and you don’t aim weapons at the police. These cops are people. They have wives/husbands at home. I’m not gonna get shot by anyone. I never ever want to have to shoot someone. When someone points at you first, you got to do what you got to do. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/67 "2016-09-16T17:35:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Also Google how often the throw down gun is a BB gun. > > Regards, > Shodan If I had to bet, I’d put money on the story that the kid pulled his own BB gun, and the cop’s story is accurate. But let’s not be naive. We’ve all seen cops who didn’t know they were on video shooting people in the back as they run away, and then plant weapons on the dead body. Cops going up to a guy on the ground, pulling out their gun, and shooting them. Cops kicking the shit out of someone while screaming “Stop going for my gun! Stop resisting!”. And the story would be perfectly plausible, except for the video. So any time I hear a perfectly plausible story about how the cops had no choice but to shoot somebody, I wonder what really happened. Probably in most cases the cops are telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/68 "2016-09-16T17:39:14Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > “and you don’t aim weapons at the police.” And we know this how? Is there video? Because I seem to recall some instances where what the police stated in these situations wasn’t backed up by video and in fact were outright lies. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/69 "2016-09-16T17:54:38Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > If I had to bet, I’d put money on the story that the kid pulled his own BB gun, and the cop’s story is accurate. > > But let’s not be naive. We’ve all seen cops who didn’t know they were on video shooting people in the back as they run away, and then plant weapons on the dead body. Cops going up to a guy on the ground, pulling out their gun, and shooting them. Cops kicking the shit out of someone while screaming “Stop going for my gun! Stop resisting!”. And the story would be perfectly plausible, except for the video. > > So any time I hear a perfectly plausible story about how the cops had no choice but to shoot somebody, I wonder what really happened. Probably in most cases the cops are telling the truth. I agree. I’ll bitch RO in the other thread, but from the linked story, and with the absence of other information, this shooting looks tragic but justified. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/70 "2016-09-16T17:54:41Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And we know this how? Is there video? Because I seem to recall some instances where what the police stated in these situations wasn’t backed up by video and in fact were outright lies. You aren’t supposed to aim guns at cops. Seriously, just don’t do it. For your own safety… Stop licking windows while your at it. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/71 "2016-09-16T17:55:20Z")
And the gold medal for conclusion jumping goes to…Boffking! ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/72 "2016-09-16T18:07:05Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > You aren’t supposed to aim guns at cops. Seriously, just don’t do it. For your own safety… Stop licking windows while your at it. Good luck. You didn’t answer the question. Cops aren’t supposed to lie, either. Good luck with that. [and, to be a dick, it’s “you’re”, moran.] ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/73 "2016-09-16T18:13:11Z")
No one is saying that cops are allowed to lie you dense mf. I am saying that in this instance it looks like some people jumped the gun :smack: on assigning blame. We don’t know yet. The information isn’t all on the table! If you are saying some cops are bad cops, then yes I agree with you. If you are saying that **this** cop is a bad cop, then we don’t know yet. The circumstances from what we do know so far, it looks like a horrible thing has happened. A kid is dead. Never good. The cop did what he had to do. I am sure he isn’t happy or proud about it. His life is important too. If you don’t like cops go bitch about it on the omnibus. Yeah you got me with the you’re. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/74 "2016-09-16T18:17:08Z")
Which is why I asked “And we know this how?” I’m not the one who is dense. Try improving your [correct use] reading comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/75 "2016-09-16T18:25:31Z")
Perhaps I misread, I apologize if that is the case. I thought you were being a smart ass and saying “How do we not know to point guns at the police”. A miscommunication then. So maybe I am a tad dense, my bad. Also I got it, you caught me with a typo. You win haha ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/76 "2016-09-16T18:32:04Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Which is why I asked “And we know this how?” > > I’m not the one who is dense. Try improving your [correct use] reading comprehension. There is no indication that anyone has lied. There may be some indication at a later date. We have no way of knowing. Until we have some indication, we accept the story that is plausible in all respects. There is an ongoing investigation. Let’s wait for the results ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/77 "2016-09-16T18:33:46Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > There is no indication that anyone has lied. > > There may be some indication at a later date. We have no way of knowing. Until we have some indication, we accept the story that is plausible in all respects. There is an ongoing investigation. Let’s wait for the results That’s reasonable. And I apologize to **TheStake** for being a smartass. ---
**Author:** ![TheStake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@TheStake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheStake)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/78 "2016-09-16T18:41:14Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > That’s reasonable. And I apologize to **TheStake** for being a smartass. I think I started it here. I don’t know Boffking, but I think that the way he presented this was very inflammatory. He jumped the gun big time. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/79 "2016-09-16T19:11:27Z")
Until further notice he shall be referred to as BoffPrince. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074/80 "2016-09-16T19:19:27Z")
To me, he’ll always be **boffking** in his former glory. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/13-year-old-tyre-king-murdered-by-police/766074.md?page=5)