# 14 k of g in a f p d

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 29, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249 "2006-11-29T21:14:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/161 "2006-12-05T07:36:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Trunk]  
That’s excellent.

It will be more excellent if it catches on and actually becomes a word some day. Then, the puzzle will just be a straight up puzzle with no stupid trick language, and will eventually move into oblivion because it is too mundane.  
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There are _four_ words in the English language that end in -gry…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/162 "2006-12-05T13:48:05Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
There are _four_ words in the English language that end in -gry…  
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Then you have to change the puzzle to “There are four words in the fuckin’ English language. Which is the fourth?”

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/163 "2006-12-05T14:39:55Z")

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Paging **mittu** , please report to the maternity ward, we are all waiting in antic…pation.

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**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/164 "2006-12-05T15:02:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Mindfield]  
It sounded awkward to me too, but on the off chance that it may be “official language” in the world of precious metals I exact-phrase-googled it and found that there were a few people who phrased it in that way, but nothing immediately apparent in any official context.

It was worth a try anyway.  
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Could it relate to gold coinage?

F = florins?  
P D = pillar dollars?

“14 karats of gold in a fillipino pillar dollar”

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/165 "2006-12-05T15:25:12Z")

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That looks promising, but I can only find references to a _silver_ pillar dollar.

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**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/166 "2006-12-05T16:38:59Z")

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[http://www.coindeals.com/](http://www.coindeals.com/)

Does look like they were silver… although I like the idea of “full pillar dollar” (contrasted with pieces-of-eight).

D = dubloons?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/167 "2006-12-05T23:28:51Z")

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14 karats of gold in a Florentine princely ducat?

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/168 "2006-12-06T00:13:07Z")

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I thought mittu was going to get back to us.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/169 "2006-12-06T00:36:52Z")

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Although Dopers have shown their usual ingenuity, the phrases are supposed to be in common use.

I’ll predict it was a typo by Mittu. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/170 "2006-12-06T12:22:59Z")

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Dang, I think my Refresh button is going to burn out.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/171 "2006-12-06T13:30:46Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Although Dopers have shown their usual ingenuity, the phrases are supposed to be in common use.

I’ll predict it was a typo by Mittu. :eek:  
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bannable offence in this case!! 😉

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**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/172 "2006-12-06T17:15:39Z")

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I’ve had a talk with the guy who got the question sheet, it is definitely “14 k\_ of g\_ in a f\_ p\_ d\_” so the ‘a’ is the word ‘a’ and not the first letter of a missing word.

He can’t find out the answer at present because whoever can answer all the riddles on the sheet wins a prize, so the person who knows the answer ain’t tellin’!!

Looking at the rest of the questions on the sheet it could quite easily have been lifted from the internet as I recognised them all from internet examples, except this one of course. So, having said that, there is always the chance that the company have made this one up either thinking they are clever or purposely sabotaging the quiz to stop anyone winning the prize. For what it’s worth the company is question is called “Auto Trader” which is a magazine where people and businesses advertise second hand cars for sale so it might be worth looking down the auto route in search of an answer, but I still got nuthin’.

I will keep pestering him so he doesn’t forget to find out the answer when the “prize-time” has ended.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/173 "2006-12-06T20:15:03Z")

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What is their deadline?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/174 "2006-12-06T20:28:21Z")

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In googling letter-equations, I stumbled across this list of [unsolved ones](http://www.creativepuzzels.nl/spel/speel1/unsolved.htm) the authors have been sent. [Let them know](http://www.creativepuzzels.nl/spel/speel1/frameng.htm) if you figure them out!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/175 "2006-12-06T20:37:23Z")

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Ah, so we’ve been trying to help someone win a prize. Humph.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/176 "2006-12-06T20:43:35Z")

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[QUOTE=mittu]  
For what it’s worth the company is question is called “Auto Trader” which is a magazine where people and businesses advertise second hand cars for sale  
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Maybe “f p d” is “full page display”, then?

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/177 "2006-12-06T20:54:44Z")

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14 kinds of gas in a finished petroleum distillate?

That’s sort of related to cars.

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**Author:** ![Trillionaire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Trillionaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trillionaire)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/178 "2006-12-06T21:28:34Z")

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It’s good that a solution’s likely and that there’s no typo, but I hope everyone realises that the answer when it comes is going to be very unsatisfactory.

I recall a similar sheet some friends and I were given at a quiz once. We flew through practically all them (26 L of the A etc.), and were stumped only by the last one “18 T in a FP”

Turned out to be (I think) “trumpets in a French Parade.”

We weren’t impressed.

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/179 "2006-12-06T21:39:17Z")

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14 keys of g? in a full piano d?

Man, this is terrible.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/14-k-of-g-in-a-f-p-d/382249/180 "2006-12-06T22:24:17Z")

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Now that we know the context, I am going to guess it’s something stupid and specific to the Auto Trader magazine.

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