# 15-Year-Old Chinese Tourist Carves His Name on 3500-Year-Old Egyptian Tomb

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463 "2013-05-27T15:08:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/41 "2013-05-28T12:08:39Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’d lose your shirt on that bet. Hong Kongers have been complaining a lot for the last few years about Mainlanders as have Japanese, Koreans, etc.

I just read an [article](http://qz.com/88334/china-is-starting-to-get-embarrassed-about-its-tourists-obnoxious-behavior-abroad/) that expounds on this.

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> “There’s a lot of this kind of uncivilized behavior out there,” said Zhang. “Take for example the sign outside the Louvre Museum only in Chinese characters that forbids people from urinating or defecating wherever they want"…
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> Reports of Chinese tourists behaving badly generally include spitting, littering, ignoring traffic laws and speaking loudly. Children are another issue: reports abound of tourists letting their children defecate in public pools (paywall) and urinate in the middle of restaurants.

:eek:

I think this can easily be explained by the fact that Chinese travelers are new to traveling and learning the customs of others. In a few years, things should smooth over.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/42 "2013-05-28T12:15:37Z")

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Even [Pompeii](http://www.pompeiana.org/resources/ancient/graffiti%20from%20pompeii.htm) had graffiti in its time.

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> Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/43 "2013-05-28T15:53:28Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I think this can easily be explained by the fact that Chinese travelers are new to traveling and learning the customs of others. In a few years, things should smooth over.

They really have to put up a sign in Chinese by the Louvre to tell the Chinese tourists not to take a dump in the courtyard?

I gave the Chinese a little more credit than that.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/44 "2013-05-28T17:27:19Z")

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Kids pooping and peeing in the middle of restaurants is a lot worse.

Give me a crying baby any day!

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/45 "2013-05-28T17:40:25Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> $5 says that in 3 years he’s enrolled at UCIrvine.

On a full scholarship to the archaeology program…

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**Author:** ![Shooby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Shooby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shooby)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/46 "2013-05-28T17:46:30Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> They really have to put up a sign in Chinese by the Louvre to tell the Chinese tourists not to take a dump in the courtyard?
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> I gave the Chinese a little more credit than that.

I lived in southwest China for a few years, and I sometimes saw parents helping their kids (usually 5 and under) piss or shit on the sidewalk. Those kids usually wore pants with a slit in the ass area so that you could open it up for easy access. The parent would hold the kid in the air, open up the slit, and let the poop come out. Usually this would happen over a planted tree in the sidewalk, thankfully.

Never saw adults doing this shit though, so I’m still a bit mystified by the Louvre sign. And none of the people I saw doing this would have been able to afford a passport and trip to Europe.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/47 "2013-05-28T17:47:18Z")

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The British Museum is outraged at this destruction of cultural heritage.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/48 "2013-05-28T18:04:33Z")

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Wow, that’s stupidity with malice aforethought. Weapons grade stupidity.

They should line up every person who lives in his city so they can all one by one give him dope slap upside the head.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/49 "2013-05-28T18:20:49Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Kids pooping and peeing in the middle of restaurants is a lot worse.
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> Give me a crying baby any day!

Do you have any friends who have worked in retail clothing shops? Ask them about the poop. [http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=12181833#page:showThread,12181833](http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=12181833#page:showThread,12181833)

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/50 "2013-05-28T18:42:54Z")

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[Yay. It’s been repaired.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/28/chinese-graffiti-removed-from-egyptian-relic/)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/51 "2013-05-28T18:57:31Z")

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Well, so much for my hopes that in another 3,000 years the distant descendant of Erich von Daniken would rediscover the temple and declare it proof that Chinese aliens had built the pyramids.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/52 "2013-05-28T19:00:53Z")

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As it happens, the graffiti removal technique they resorted to was an ancient Chinese secret.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/53 "2013-05-29T03:00:58Z")

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Not to defend the scrawling kid, but aren’t some of the scripts we know about only known from graffiti or other random inscriptions?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/54 "2013-05-29T04:04:35Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> They really have to put up a sign in Chinese by the Louvre to tell the Chinese tourists not to take a dump in the courtyard?
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> I gave the Chinese a little more credit than that.

I was at the Lourve this past October. In the men’s room closest to the main entrance 5 of the 6 urinals were covered in plastic and clearly out of order. Of the 4 stalls only 2 were working. The place was overrun with tourists, Chinese and others.

I can’t read Chinese so I didn’t see the sign, but I imagine there were plenty of folks from all over the world who were carefully considering their options that day.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/55 "2013-05-29T14:09:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Not to defend the scrawling kid, but aren’t some of the scripts we know about only known from graffiti or other random inscriptions?

The Rosetta Stone of defacement.

“For a good time, call upon Hatshepsut”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/56 "2013-05-29T15:22:45Z")

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_Gesundheit_

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/57 "2013-05-29T19:04:20Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I think this can easily be explained by the fact that Chinese travelers are new to traveling and learning the customs of others. In a few years, things should smooth over.

Well I never had any plans to go to China but now I am planning on definitely not going if it’s so common to have kids pissing in the middle of restuarants.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/58 "2013-05-29T19:29:40Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Well I never had any plans to go to China but now I am planning on definitely not going if it’s so common to have kids pissing in the middle of restuarants.

Aww, go on: you can feast on **[Virgin Eggs](http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/29/10922289-urine-soaked-virgin-boy-eggs-are-a-springtime-taste-treat-in-china?lite)**

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/59 "2013-05-29T20:38:48Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> [Yay. It’s been repaired.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/28/chinese-graffiti-removed-from-egyptian-relic/)

For some reason I read that in the voice of Kristen Wiig’s Target Lady.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/15-year-old-chinese-tourist-carves-his-name-on-3500-year-old-egyptian-tomb/659463/60 "2013-05-29T21:44:05Z")

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Catcher in the Rye redux.

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