# 168 year old English Paper closed by Rupert Murdoch **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525 "2011-07-10T18:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/21 "2011-07-11T05:26:13Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > So whose sock is this? My first guess is **Wildest Bill** , but it could be **thaidog** or **bjorn** , too. I miss them all, and this OP is far too coherent to be any of them. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/22 "2011-07-11T06:38:35Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Holy Crap! Thought you must’ve made a typo refering to her in the present tense, but I guess Rupert Murdoch’s _Mom_ is still alive. Did not know that. 102 years old and still doing charity work. She’s a marvel. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/23 "2011-07-11T16:22:35Z")
> **[Hacking Scandal Widens](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/news-international-murdoch-gordon-brown-hacking_n_894588)** > > Hacking Scandal Widens This is bad timing for Rupert. he was almost ready to take over bSkyb and install a Fox network in England. He owns 39 percent and was going to get control. Now some highly placed politicians are objecting ,pointing out the low and possibly illegal standards that his “reporters” adhere to. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/24 "2011-07-11T21:01:09Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Holy Crap! Thought you must’ve made a typo refering to her in the present tense, but I guess Rupert Murdoch’s _Mom_ is still alive. Did not know that. Now I’m depressed. I find out that this unspeakably evil piece of shit has the genes to keep going for decades more. There is not justice. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/25 "2011-07-11T21:48:35Z")
Excuse me, stewardess. I speak Jive. Man, you guys really need to learn to speak crazy. It’s a lot more fun. It’s pretty easy to understand what the guy is saying. Allow me to translate. > [@](#): > > Murdoch is taking the easy way out by closing the paper. He is so despicable, he should be required to keep it going so that he will be continually mocked. The people at “Faux” news are probably under orders to not to say anything, for pain of death [obvious hyperbole]. > > The real problem with what the guy did is not his behavior, but how each individual working on the paper now has to share in the collective guilt. They are so inoculated to this sort of thinking, they think this behavior is normal. They go about their lives, doing horrendous things, and don’t feel bad about it. That’s the real legacy of what Murdoch did. And then some stuff about how nude pictures and violent images are the real crime and much worse than anything going on in this scandal, and how this newspaper has inoculated us to the evils of such things. ---
**Author:** ![Hallucinex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hallucinex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hallucinex)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/26 "2011-07-12T19:08:47Z")
> [@hnsjrf](#): > > Lets see, the same motivational tactics used by Saddam on the Kurds, USSR, China, Mussolini, Israeli Army, plenty of others. Saddam did use some pretty shocking tactics against Mussolini… ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/27 "2011-07-12T20:53:14Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The rest of your post was too rambling and incoherent to really understand without chemcial aid. But just think how awesome it would be _with_ chemical aid! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525/28 "2011-07-12T21:00:48Z")
I decided to not try to read what the OP is ranting about. Could anyone more lucid summarize it for me succinctly? Is it something like, Murdoch shutting down a long-running paper for unethical failings means nothing because it’s rampant in the industry? But then it goes way crazy and my eyes glaze over. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/168-year-old-english-paper-closed-by-rupert-murdoch/588525.md?page=1)