# 17 year old black kid killed by white guy who felt threatened by rap music

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**Created:** [July 9, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806 "2019-07-09T23:29:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/1 "2019-07-09T23:29:39Z")

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I can’t believe I’m just hearing about this now considering I live so close to Phoenix.

> **[Outrage over killing of black teen over rap music complaint](https://apnews.com/article/8cf80817059640d49cfab84e1814a48e)**
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> PHOENIX (AP) — Hundreds of people including a presidential candidate spoke out on Twitter this week after a 17-year-old black youth was killed at suburban convenience store, allegedly by a white man charged Tuesday with first-degree murder who has...

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> In the Arizona attack, first responders discovered Al-Amin collapsed outside the Peoria Circle K store’s gas pumps and took him to a hospital, where he died. Several people inside the store had watched as Al-Amin was stabbed in the throat and the back before he ran outside.
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> Officers found Adams nearby with a pocket knife and blood on his body. Adams told them he had felt threatened by the rap music coming from Al-Amin’s vehicle.

What the ever-loving fuck???

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> Adams’ attorney, Jacie Cotterell, told the judge at his initial appearance hearing that her client was mentally ill and released without any medication, “no holdover meds, no way to care for himself.”
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> Cotterell said during the videotaped court hearing that “this is a failing on the part of the (Arizona) Department of Corrections.”
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> Adam’s bond was maintained at $1 million. He had been freed July 2 after serving a 13-month sentence for aggravated assault.
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> Department of Corrections spokesman Bill Lamoreaux said in a statement that “the tragic death is terrible, and Mr. Adams will have to answer for his alleged actions.”
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> The statement said that when Adams was released he “was not designated seriously mentally ill” and that once the department transported him from the state prison complex in Yuma where he had served his sentence to Maricopa County it “had no further legal authority over him.”

I’m pretty sure we decided a couple of years ago that this wasn’t an acceptable reason to murder someone. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/2 "2019-07-09T23:53:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’m pretty sure we decided a couple of years ago that this wasn’t an acceptable reason to murder someone. :mad:

With the exception of the suspect, who’s claiming that it is?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/3 "2019-07-10T00:13:39Z")

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The guy is out of prison for TWO DAYS?? My guess is he wanted to go back in. For real, not a joke. Could’ve found a better way, like maybe just robbing the Circle K he was standing in without a weapon.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/4 "2019-07-10T00:20:29Z")

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13 months for aggravated assault? Incidents like this reinforce my belief that we don’t punish violent crimes harshly enough and that we punish nonviolent crimes too harshly.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/5 "2019-07-10T01:37:29Z")

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Dude probably had some kind of mental disorder. (Not that that makes it okay)

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/6 "2019-07-10T01:57:00Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> 13 months for aggravated assault? Incidents like this reinforce my belief that we don’t punish violent crimes harshly enough and that we punish nonviolent crimes too harshly.

Consider also that agg. assault is what he likely plead to, and not all of what he was actually guilty of doing. Catch and release. Maybe he’ll actually be incapacitated for long enough this time?

Crazy people are going to do crazy stuff, Bo. Usually, it’s done to them. I wouldn’t give his stated motivation much credence.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/7 "2019-07-10T02:13:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Dude probably had some kind of mental disorder. (Not that that makes it okay)

I agree. Very tragic.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/8 "2019-07-10T13:52:45Z")

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If he wanted to kill black kids just for making him feel unsafe he should have gone to the police academy.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/9 "2019-07-10T15:38:39Z")

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You know things are bad when your first thought is, you’re happy it wasn’t the police that killed the kid. Geeze.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/10 "2019-07-10T16:06:04Z")

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Stupid guy kills innocent person for stupid reason, just another day in America.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-black-kid-killed-by-white-guy-who-felt-threatened-by-rap-music/836806/11 "2019-07-10T17:32:40Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Dude probably had some kind of mental disorder. (Not that that makes it okay)

In my opinion, anyone who has a mental disorder that causes them to kill random people in the street should be placed in involuntary psychiatric confinement until it can be proven that they no longer have the mental disorder.
