# 18 Months??? That's All??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291 "2001-10-04T00:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/1 "2001-10-04T00:10:54Z")
I couldn’t find an online link to this, so I’ll just quote the AP wire as reported in the Providence Journal this morning : > [@](#): > > **Man sentenced in Internet plot** > > Calias (Maine) - An Eastport man who admitted that he tried to enlist someone to kidnap and rape his 12 year old daughter and provide electronic photos of the deed has been sentenced to 18 months in prison. A judge in Calais also ordered that Harry Munson, 38, be placed on probabtion for 6 years after his release. For the next 10 years after that, Munson will be required to register as a sex offender. You know, I’m not usually a vindictive person, but to me there is just not enough time in the world to put this guy away for, but 18 months??? And with good behavior he’ll probably be out in 9? What the hell was this judge thinking? This guy wanted someone to _kidnap and rape_ his own daughter! At only 12 years old! There’s not a bad enough punishment I could think of for this guy but I sincerely hope that while he’s in prison someone arranges Mr. Munson’s anatomy so that this fuck knuckle can never have children again. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/2 "2001-10-04T00:17:43Z")
Oh Goddess, I think I’m going to puke. Is there more to the story? There’s got to be more. No judge in the world could _possibly_ be that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/3 "2001-10-04T00:25:38Z")
What a sick fuck! Is this girl and the rest of her family now far away from this waste of skin? ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/4 "2001-10-04T00:28:39Z")
I’ve been searching the net for the last hour for any other details I can find, but so far I’ve come up empty. I’ll keep looking. The only thing I can think of as far as the judge is concerned is that 18 months may have been all he was legally allowed to sentence him to since he (thankfully!) was caught before he was able to go through with his scheme. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/5 "2001-10-04T00:49:09Z")
Of course, ten years as a registered sex offended isn’t a laughing matter. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/6 "2001-10-04T02:07:00Z")
Perhaps reading through this [Bangor Daily News Article](http://www.bangornews.com/editorialnews/article.html?ID=42559) will fill in some blanks. I’m way too angry to say something here. Just go and read. :mad: Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![drillrod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@drillrod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drillrod)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/7 "2001-10-04T02:37:14Z")
ANDROS: Ten years as a registered sex offended isn’t enough. This guy thought that it would be hot to see his 12-year old daughter get raped. The only fortunate thing is that he was apparently too much of a coward to do it himself or to actually follow up and have it done. The most disguting thing is that someone soliciting the murder of this sick, rat-fuck bastard would probably receive more than 18 months. ---
**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/8 "2001-10-04T03:08:05Z")
Registered sex offender my ass ! This guy should have a tattoo on his face that says \*\* I tried to get someone to kidnap and rape my 12 yr. old child, and to share pictures of the act with me. \*\* My wish at this point is that he be placed in the general population of the prison and that someone would let the nature of his crime slip. Bastard is too nice a name for this scum. My heart is broken for that little girl. How in the hell is she ever going to be able to trust anyone now ? ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/9 "2001-10-04T04:20:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ayesha \* > **My wish at this point is that he be placed in the general population of the prison and that someone would let the nature of his crime slip.** I totally agree with you. The problem is, most times these _things_ (can’t call them people) end up in seperate parts of the prison, for their protection :rolleyes: since putting them in the prison’s general population and letting the other inmates know of the reason why they are there could be considered ‘cruel and unusual punishment’. I don’t have cites for this, but then again this isn’t GQ or GD… In one word: _ **Sickening** _. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/10 "2001-10-04T04:43:45Z")
My uncle has a saying which he uses in situations like this: Some people just need to be shot. I can’t think of anyway better to say it. ---
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/11 "2001-10-04T05:55:44Z")
**Toon** ’s link had a wonderful sentence; said that Munson is receiving therapy. …of the high-speed lead variety, one would hope. Eighteen fucking months? Jesus Christ, take me home, it’s completely fucked down here. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/12 "2001-10-04T06:05:50Z")
A judge here in Texas returned a couple of young girls to the home where thier mothers boyfriend had been molesting them. His excuse was that it would be difficult to place them in foster care, so the mother just needed to put an alarm on the girls bedroom door at night. Some judges have no business doing what they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/13 "2001-10-04T06:14:25Z")
18 months is way too short, he should have been given the full 10 years. And I read the story that says all he succeeded in doing was putting an ad on the internet seeking for someone to kidnap and rape his daughter. Arrrrghh! ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/14 "2001-10-04T06:28:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*My uncle has a saying which he uses in situations like this: Some people just need to be shot. > > I can’t think of anyway better to say it. \*\* Erm… How about, shot and hung _after_ torture? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/15 "2001-10-04T06:41:20Z")
The only consolation is that the girl has a stepfather, (apparently the mom re-married, THANK GOD). So I hope and pray that this girl considers her step-dad to be her REAL dad, and she still trusts him as a “father figure” type. Please, oh please, let that be so. I am utterly appalled that someone could be this sick. Horrified. The depravity of some people has no limits, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/16 "2001-10-04T11:19:58Z")
Unbelievable. I’m honestly stunned. I agree with all those who believe someone with this degree of inhumanity should be removed permanently from society - if he could consider this for his own daughter, surely he’s capable of considering it for another 12 year old girl? ---
**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/17 "2001-10-04T12:28:13Z")
:::: jaw drops to the floor :::: Oh you have to be freakin’ kidding me. Hail American justice, hail. :rolleyes: E. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/18 "2001-10-04T16:11:50Z")
i detect the odor of a lawyer making behind-the-scene deals… ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/19 "2001-10-04T16:23:18Z")
This guy needs to be handed over to the Taliban for proper sentencing. ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2001, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291/20 "2001-10-04T16:47:15Z")
Gees! If you read the article, it’s WORSE than Euty thought…I was prepared to think maybe the Judge’s hands were tied because it was only “solicitation” and not actually contracted or something but this… > [@](#): > > Munson, who was charged with solicitation, could have been sentenced to up to 10 years in prison. He entered a guilty plea to the charge in January and waived indictment and his right to a trial. He **WASN’T** given the maximum sentence. > [@](#): > > On July 3, 2000, Munson called Detective Glenn Lang in Augusta and asked about his daughter’s well-being. During the conversation, Munson told Lang that he had posted the abduction information on the Internet four times. He also told the detective that he was not trying to be funny, but said he fully intended to have his daughter abducted and raped. “He said he simply did not have the nerve to go through with it each time,” the affidavit stated. FOUR SEPARATE TIMES?!?! > [@](#): > > Munson’s attorney said that shortly after he was arrested, Munson had voluntarily sought psychological treatment and continued to undergo counseling and was remorseful… > > The judge sentenced Munson to six years in prison with all but 18 months suspended. As part of his probation conditions, Munson was ordered to have no contact with his daughter or his ex-wife. WTF?! Remorseful or not, this man needs treatment and a long-time separation from society not probation. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/18-months-thats-all/85291.md?page=2)