# 180 copies of A Dance With Dragons shipped early, and I got one!

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**Created:** [June 29, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259 "2011-06-29T14:24:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![mkl12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mkl12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkl12)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/1 "2011-06-29T14:24:11Z")

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George R. R. Martin’s next novel in the _A Song of Ice and Fire_ series, _A Dance with Dragons_, is supposed to be released on July 12th. But [Aamzon.de](http://Aamzon.de) in Germany made a mistake and shipped 180 copies early, and today, I got one of those in the mail. 😃

Don’t worry, I’m not going to spoil anything, I just had to share this.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/2 "2011-06-29T14:26:14Z")

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Sorry. Until I have \*my own copy \*in my hands I will not believe this book actually exists.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/3 "2011-06-29T14:26:21Z")

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Winter is coming for you.

That is all.

[sub]and yes, that’s the best insult I can think up right now. Sue me.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/4 "2011-06-29T15:40:11Z")

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> [@mkl12](#):
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> George R. R. Martin’s next novel in the _A Song of Ice and Fire_ series, _A Dance with Dragons_, is supposed to be released on July 12th. But [Aamzon.de](http://Aamzon.de) in Germany made a mistake and shipped 180 copies early, and today, I got one of those in the mail. 😃
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> Don’t worry, I’m not going to spoil anything, I just had to share this.

I \*hate \*you.

_Valar Morghulis_

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/5 "2011-06-29T15:55:50Z")

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Well, color me jealous. Did you order from [amazon.de](http://amazon.de)? Are you in Germany? How the heck did that happen?

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**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/6 "2011-06-29T16:00:14Z")

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[http://www.isadancewithdragonsoutyet.com/](http://www.isadancewithdragonsoutyet.com/)

There’s been no change at my favorite source, so I’ll choose to believe you’re lying. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/7 "2011-06-29T16:03:47Z")

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And now there’s spoilers all over the freaking internet. Arg.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/8 "2011-06-29T16:07:22Z")

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Yeah.0  
I’ll read my copy after I watch my DVD of **Buckaroo Banzai and the World Crime League**.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/9 "2011-06-29T16:14:40Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> And now there’s spoilers all over the freaking internet. Arg.

From 180 copies?

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**Author:** ![mkl12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mkl12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkl12)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/10 "2011-06-29T16:29:13Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Well, color me jealous. Did you order from [amazon.de](http://amazon.de)? Are you in Germany? How the heck did that happen?

I’m German and I live in Germany, so [amazon.de](http://amazon.de) was the most obvius choice.

And it’s true, see this link for confirmation by Martin himself:

> **[Not A Blog](https://grrm.livejournal.com/2011/06/29/)**
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> grrm - the new blog in LiveJournal. There should be new interesting records soon.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/11 "2011-06-29T20:00:50Z")

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[QUOTE=GRRM]  
I am not happy about this. My publishers are furious.  
If we find out who is responsible, we will mount his head on a spike.  
[/QUOTE]

Uh oh.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/12 "2011-06-29T20:06:07Z")

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So, a spoiler question but only about format: any new characters who are p.o.v./chapter title characters this time? I’m wondering if he’s going to bring back Rickon or Osha and make them p.o.v. characters. And just from flipping through, how Daenerys heavy is it?

I’ve just started Feast of Crows and it seems blessedly short on Daenerys chapters, which drag down the other books even when they have vital happenings because the events are so irrelevant to anything on Westeros. I know eventually she’ll invade and it will come together, but for now it just slows the khalasar.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/13 "2011-06-29T20:09:49Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> So, a spoiler question but only about format: any new characters who are p.o.v./chapter title characters this time? I’m wondering if he’s going to bring back Rickon or Osha and make them p.o.v. characters. And just from flipping through, how Daenerys heavy is it?

I believe those have been known for a while, and are on the wiki.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/14 "2011-06-29T20:15:04Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> I believe those have been known for a while, and are on the wiki.

Yeah, but I’m avoiding the wiki, for that’s where spoilers would lurk. I’ve been looking forward to DoD just strictly because “Jamie has a sex change and marries Jalabhar Xo, Brienne gives birth to a winged pony, and a swamp lord called Budro the C’ahajun erects the castle of Zyda Kho where time stands still” aren’t all over the net.

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**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/15 "2011-06-29T20:18:16Z")

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Just wanted to point out that the OP posts at about the same rate as GRRM writes. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/16 "2011-06-29T20:22:21Z")

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> [@TPWombat](#):
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> Just wanted to point out that the OP posts at about the same rate as GRRM writes. 🙂

But as Neil Gaiman has said, [GRRM is not your bitch](http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html).😃

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/17 "2011-06-29T20:26:56Z")

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If we want spoilers, does anyone know where we can get them? Please spoiler-box your link so people don’t accidentally lick it.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/18 "2011-06-29T20:29:32Z")

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I’ dont want spoilers, but I’ll like to know if its better than the previous one…

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/19 "2011-06-29T20:31:12Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> If we want spoilers, does anyone know where we can get them? Please spoiler-box your link so people don’t accidentally lick it.

The Wikia of Ice and Fire, or woiaf (google it), will probably have them in force.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/180-copies-of-a-dance-with-dragons-shipped-early-and-i-got-one/587259/20 "2011-06-29T20:35:52Z")

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Spoiler T-shirt idea:  
**TYRION KILLS DUMBLEDORE!**

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