# 19 dead, 20 injured in Sagamihara, Japan **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894 "2016-07-25T21:46:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/1 "2016-07-25T21:46:23Z")
[Two sentences on the AP: > [@](#): > > The Kyodo news agency is reporting that 19 people are dead and 20 injured following a knife attack in Sagamihara, outside Tokyo. > > A knife-wielding man attacked a facility for the disabled and then turned himself in, police said. ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS\_JAPAN\_KNIFE\_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-25-17-29-40](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_KNIFE_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-25-17-29-40)) Why would anyone attack a facility for the disabled? I mean, was he targeting the disabled people or the people who work there? Also, I don’t want to forget the what-by-now-seems-to-be-obligatory “What the fucking fuck is wrong with all these people lately??” query: What the fucking fuck is wrong with all these people lately?? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/2 "2016-07-25T22:04:00Z")
19 people dead in a KNIFE attack?! ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/3 "2016-07-25T22:08:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Two sentences on the AP:](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_JAPAN_KNIFE_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-25-17-29-40) > Why would anyone attack a facility for the disabled? I mean, was he targeting the disabled people or the people who work there? > > Also, I don’t want to forget the what-by-now-seems-to-be-obligatory “What the fucking fuck is wrong with all these people lately??” query: What the fucking fuck is wrong with all these people lately?? Your article says he worked there so he was probably disgruntled and, for what ever fucked up reason, thought this was a way to get revenge. > [@ekedolphin](#): > > 19 people dead in a KNIFE attack?! It’s not particularly hard to stab disabled people to death. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/4 "2016-07-25T22:09:28Z")
Special circumstances, I think. [Quote=AP news article] …knife attack at a **facility for the handicapped** in Sagamihara, just outside Tokyo. [/quote] Depending on the natures of the various disabilities in play, many of the victims may have been less able to escape or defend themselves. Shit. That’s nauseatingly bad. ETA: Beaten to the punch by **treis**. But I don’t think joking about ninjas would be appropriate ATM. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/5 "2016-07-25T22:11:00Z")
From wiki; On 25 July 2016, at least 19 people were killed and up to 50 injured in a mass stabbing incident at a disabled care home in the city. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/6 "2016-07-25T22:14:13Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > 19 people dead in a KNIFE attack?! If it’s a K-bar/hunting knife, I could see it. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/7 "2016-07-25T22:31:53Z")
Doing a quick Google search to see which of the other knife massacres in Japan happened on the same day as one of the more notable mass killings in America turns out to be a really depressing thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/8 "2016-07-26T00:10:11Z")
The way to stop mass murder is to improve mental health, not reduce access to weapons. This tragedy wasn’t about knives, the recent attack in France wasn’t about Trucks, and the OKC bombing wasn’t about fertiliser. These attacks were all committed by deranged individuals who used the weapons they had available. The gun debate that pops up after mass shootings rather misses this point. ---
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/9 "2016-07-26T00:16:07Z")
It was the middle of the night when this happened. Low staff levels and it sounds like he killed them in their beds. Horrible. ---
**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/10 "2016-07-26T00:18:01Z")
[BBC news.](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36890655) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/11 "2016-07-26T00:38:01Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > 19 people dead in a KNIFE attack?! > **[A note on mass victim knife attacks around the world: a single, very small 16...](https://crimeresearch.org/2014/04/a-note-on-mass-victim-knife-attacks/)** > > John Lott had a discussion about the Pennsylvania attack on Coast to Coast AM (April 10, 2014 from 1:08 to 1:11 AM). Franklin Regional High School near Pittsburgh was the horrific scene on Wednesda… ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/12 "2016-07-26T00:41:20Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > The way to stop mass murder is to improve mental health, not reduce access to weapons. This tragedy wasn’t about knives, the recent attack in France wasn’t about Trucks, and the OKC bombing wasn’t about fertiliser. These attacks were all committed by deranged individuals who used the weapons they had available. The gun debate that pops up after mass shootings rather misses this point. Agenda much? ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/13 "2016-07-26T00:50:07Z")
If this monster used a gun, this would quickly become a gun control thread. The point I’m trying to make is, people, not weapons, commit murder. If we can acknowledge that a knife or bomb attack is the result of a deranged or radicalized person, why are guns blamed for shootings? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/14 "2016-07-26T01:01:41Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > If this monster used a gun, this would quickly become a gun control thread. Good job making sure that happens anyway, guy. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/15 "2016-07-26T02:07:08Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > If this monster used a gun, this would quickly become a gun control thread. The point I’m trying to make is, people, not weapons, commit murder. If we can acknowledge that a knife or bomb attack is the result of a deranged or radicalized person, why are guns blamed for shootings? It wasn’t, until you brought it up in this post. Let’s stick with just discussing the event for now and save the politics or gun debate for GD. Make a thread there if you want to debate it, please. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/16 "2016-07-26T02:14:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why would anyone attack a facility for the disabled? I mean, was he targeting the disabled people or the people who work there? [The disabled](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-attack-idUSKCN1052D0): > [@](#): > > Asahi Shimbun reported that the suspect was quoted by police as saying: “I want to get rid of the disabled from this world.” ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/17 "2016-07-26T02:41:16Z")
I heard someone mention the other day that “at least” with a gun there is a lot of noise and people start running away from the noise. With a knife and a crowded area, several people can be dead or dying before anyone knows what’s going on, and that is just the people in the immediate area. Sleeping disabled people. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/18 "2016-07-26T02:49:13Z")
You do have to remember that Japanese culture is not as accepting of differently-abled as ours is. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/19 "2016-07-26T02:55:51Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > You do have to remember that Japanese culture is not as accepting of differently-abled as ours is. Oh, well that explains it then. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894/20 "2016-07-26T13:15:21Z")
I heard on the news this morning that this idiot wants to be found innocent and be given 50 million yen. Ain’t gonna happen, asshole. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/19-dead-20-injured-in-sagamihara-japan/760894.md?page=2)