1957 vs. 2007

Slight hijack, but - why was cancer “shameful”?

Not only cancer, but epilepsy, mental illness and other diseases were seen as such.

I can’t really say why cancer was shameful. Maybe someone who was present back then could lend us some insight.

And wasn’t it as late as 1957 that they were still heralding smoking as healthy (and good for asthma)?

Yes, and in 2007, parents are encouraged to find out about these problems during pregnancy so they can get rid of the baby, and otherwise “forget” about them.

1957 nobody ever dreamed there’d be laws against stalking one day. What we now call stalking was then called “Come on, he likes you. Give him a chance.”

There were no laws against marital rape, which was then called, “What did you think was going to happen when you married him?”

Every item of clothing you owned reeked of cigarette smoke. People would blow smoke right in your face and think nothing of it. Of course, you would do the same thing.

1957:
-poodle skirts
-bobbie sox
-unplanned pregnacies=the girl was sent to a “good home”
-vaseline hair creme
-doo wop music
-“I Like IKE”
-Communism=world evil
2007:
-cheese-flavored dog food
-cheap computers

In 1957 wife beating was considered normal :eek: . The bitch deserved it. It was all her fault. She should be a better wife and he wouldn’t hit her.

You probably deserved it. there was no hitting allowed in my schools.

Yes, that just about sums it up.

I certainly hope so.

That will come as big surprise to everyone who has ever gone to Cornell, which describes itself as ‘the youngest of the Ivies’…

The Ivy League: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, UPenn, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia and Cornell.

Bunk. They are encouraged to get the information. What they choose to do with the information is up to them. Some people choose to have an abortion but many people who would never choose to abort the pregnancy still want the information so they can prepare for the special needs of the child. If you’re having a Down’s baby you want to be at a hospital with an NICU and where they can deal with heart defects among other things. Amnioscentesis results are often returned too late for an elective abortion anyway.

Bunk. I never said that people were encouraged by medical staff, and I never said that amnios are only done for that reason. But they are encouraged by others in their lives, and it happens all the time. And Amnios are deliberately done early enough so that elective abortion can be done. I know this, because I know people who scheduled them specifically for that reason.

In 1957 people couldn’t hijack threads.

In 1960 it was amazing that a Catholic got the Presidential nomination. As for a woman and a colored boy trying to get the nomination–forget about it!

I was going to say cancer. 50 years ago I probably wouldn’t be typing this with both the ladies (more or less) intact.

Most people didn’t have TVs.

Women worked outside the home until they got married. Many women went to college not for a degree, but to catch a husband.

News traveled much slower.

Ok, I never heard of Columbia OR Cornell described as Ivy League schools. And I knew a Cornell professor for quite a few years before she died, and she never referred to it as such. Of course, that doesn’t prove anything, I 'spose.

Yes, and that is good, IMO.

Guess that proves my point to pendgwen.

Re: The Ivy League…it’s not a matter of being “described” as an Ivy League school, the way you would describe something as being, say, a “prestigious” school. It either is a member of the Ivy League, or it isn’t. And in this case, it is.

In 2007 If I get this list on email I can quickly send it to the trash bin after a cursory scan to realize it is BS. All of this takes very little effort and next to no cost.

In 1957 You would have spent money to mail me this list. A mail man would have to deliver this to me. I would have to open and read before tossing into the trash bin and then it would be moved to the dump by the garbage man.

Again I have to protest.

I agree that spousal abuse was not always treated as the serious event it is now. In many instances, police wouldn’t respond with an arrest unless a hospital trip was required.

But it certainly wasn’t considered “normal.” The classic “gotcha” witness yes-or-no question “Have you stopped beating your wife?” has been around since well before the fifties, and it shows that there was opprobrium to the act even then. It wasn’t always treated as we treat it now, but in 1957, it certainly wasn’t “considered normal.”