# 1960s Westers-firearms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 23, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098 "2017-12-23T01:28:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098/21 "2017-12-25T19:52:37Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> Maverick very definitely takes place after the Civil War not before it. In fact, very few of the traditional TV westerns are antebellum.

Part of the back story of Maverick is that the brothers were Texans who had fought for the Union.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098/22 "2017-12-25T19:55:19Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> Just a further note on dates.
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> The Maverick episode “According to Hoyle” cites the 1976 edition of that book.
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> The Ponderosa prequel to Bonanza is set in 1949 and Little Joe was not yet a teenager.

1849, I’m assuming? A recent rerun I was watching was talking about the territorial governor, even though Nevada became a state in 1864, so it had to be sometime pre or during the Civil War.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098/23 "2017-12-25T21:41:37Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Part of the back story of Maverick is that the brothers were Texans who had fought for the Union.

Nope, the boys fought for the confederacy, and got captured and given a choice. Prison camp or fight indians out west. They chose the fight out west option.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098/24 "2017-12-26T19:01:09Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> 1849, I’m assuming? A recent rerun I was watching was talking about the territorial governor, even though Nevada became a state in 1864, so it had to be sometime pre or during the Civil War.

I’m not familiar with the prequel but yeah they must not have meant 1949. The series Bonanza dates itself explicitly relative to various historical events, especially toward the beginning. In season 1 Episode 18 ‘A House Divided’ a Southern sympathizer sows discord in Virginia City and among the Cartwrights, this is apparently on the eve of the war. Another S 1 episode features a (the) Paiute War (of 1860). In S. 4 Ep. 9 ‘The War Comes to Washoe’, statehood convention delegates debate which side Nevada will take in the Civil War (there was a failed convention in 1863). The idea seemed to be Bonanza presented Nevada 100 yrs before the air date so 1859-1860 in Season 1, though obviously not a ‘history lesson’ overall. Some ‘post CW’ episodes, by that rule, have themes of CW veterans.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1960s-westers-firearms/805098/25 "2017-12-29T19:11:07Z")

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There was a reference in Maverick to “Seward’s Folly” which dates it to 1867.

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