# 2 Muppet Show questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 9, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524 "2005-04-09T04:45:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![robinc308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@robinc308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robinc308)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/41 "2005-04-12T07:34:47Z")
> [@Master Control](#): > > In the episode with Steve Martin, when they tell him that the show is canceled because it’s their night to try new acts, he stays and tries out some acts anyway. During either his juggling act or his balloon animal act, he asks Kermit how much the audience paid, and Kermit says that they got in for free. I can’t be sure (I’ll just have to double check by watching the DVD again, darn :D), but going from memory, you’re absolutely right. I had completely forgotten about that. It’s probably reasonable to infer that this was not an exception either… But I still stand by the rest of my post… They made their money off movies, albums, merchandise and other promotional activities. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/42 "2005-04-12T14:17:54Z")
> [@robinc308](#): > > And the newsreader sounds quite a lot like Link Hogthrob… > > But they did do occasional scenes with the same muppeteer’s characters. For example the bar sceen with Rowlf and Kermit in The Muppet Movie. (Both Jim Henson characters…) > > If I recall, the way they did it was they would get someone else to move the muppet, and then the regular muppeteer would do the voice - either live or dubbed later. Usually. Most often, they were just careful about how they wrote their scenes, so that two muppets voiced by a single actor just don’t interact that often. On **The Muppet Show** , Fozzie and Miss Piggy never interact for more than a line or two, and even then one is usually in the distance or something. It’s pretty striking, considering that they’re both such core characters, but they hardly ever seem to run into each other. And Rowlf sometimes says a line to Kermit, but then he’ll just walk offscreen. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/43 "2005-04-12T16:28:36Z")
> [@robinc308](#): > > > [@Master Control](#): > > > > In the episode with Steve Martin, when they tell him that the show is canceled because it’s their night to try new acts, he stays and tries out some acts anyway. During either his juggling act or his balloon animal act, he asks Kermit how much the audience paid, and Kermit says that they got in for free. > > I can’t be sure (I’ll just have to double check by watching the DVD again, darn ), but going from memory, you’re absolutely right. I had completely forgotten about that. It’s probably reasonable to infer that this was not an exception either… No, it’s perfectly resonable to infer that this _was_ an exception; it would have been a [test audience](http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9809/28/screen.test/). ---
**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/44 "2005-04-12T16:45:18Z")
It’s all community theater. Nobody gets paid to perform (except the orchestra), but Kermit is there to keep things under control and try to keep the standards up. How does the owner of the theater get paid? Advertising in the programs. Grants. Donations. A show that can attract guest stars of that caliber must be generating a lot of public interest (I mean, c’mon! They actually booked Angus McGonagall the Gargling Gargoyle!). Speaking as a veteran of community theater, it’s not as far fetched as you might imagine. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/45 "2005-04-12T16:47:10Z")
No, Fozzie wasn’t Bert in a bear suit. Yoda in a bear suit, he was. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/46 "2005-04-12T17:02:26Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > No, Fozzie wasn’t Bert in a bear suit. > > Yoda in a bear suit, he was. Naw. Grover was Yoda. Talk backward he did to trick Luke, who sharpest knife in the drawer was not. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/47 "2005-04-12T20:34:31Z")
Why do we always come here I guess we’ll never know It’s kind of like a torture to have to watch the show ---
**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/48 "2005-04-12T21:29:20Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Naw. Grover was Yoda. Talk backward he did to trick Luke, who sharpest knife in the drawer was not. You’ve nailed that one, **Marley**. My humble impression of “lovable furry old Yoda” never fails to send my six year-old into giggle fits. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/49 "2005-04-12T21:59:39Z")
> [@Master Control](#): > > In the episode with Steve Martin, when they tell him that the show is canceled because it’s their night to try new acts, he stays and tries out some acts anyway. During either his juggling act or his balloon animal act, he asks Kermit how much the audience paid, and Kermit says that they got in for free. That was part of Steve Martin’s shtick. On his Let’s Get Small album, he goes into how much the audience paid and the value of the show he’s doing. Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/50 "2005-04-13T17:42:46Z")
Fozzie’s not a bear…he’s a wearin’ a necka tie! ka-ching ---
**Author:** ![robinc308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@robinc308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robinc308)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524/51 "2005-04-15T11:09:01Z")
> [@fessie](#): > > Fozzie’s not a bear…he’s a wearin’ a necka tie! That would be the worlds funniest joke, would it not? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-muppet-show-questions/298524.md?page=2)