# 2 Russian planes lost, could be terrorism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 25, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405 "2004-08-25T05:02:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/1 "2004-08-25T05:02:42Z")

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My bet is that its Chechen Seperatists.

[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3596354.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3596354.stm)

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/2 "2004-08-25T05:07:22Z")

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Uhm… Fuck? 😕

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/3 "2004-08-25T05:10:22Z")

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I’d be worried about another round of anti terrorism laws and Putin tightening his grip on the Duma and the state as a whole, very worried.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/4 "2004-08-25T05:42:50Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> I’d be worried about another round of anti terrorism laws and Putin tightening his grip on the Duma and the state as a whole, very worried.

Yeah, God forbid we’d be worried about actual terrorists.

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**Author:** ![spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spectrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spectrum)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/5 "2004-08-25T15:21:00Z")

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Duffer, do you know anything about Russo-Chechen relations, or are you just knee-jerking to the word “terrorist.”

Anyone who follows Russia is aware that Putin’s anti-democratic posturing and impulses, not terrorism, are the real threat to the future of the Russian Federation.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/6 "2004-08-25T15:31:25Z")

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> [@spectrum](#):
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> Duffer, do you know anything about Russo-Chechen relations, or are you just knee-jerking to the word “terrorist.”
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> Anyone who follows Russia is aware that Putin’s anti-democratic posturing and impulses, not terrorism, are the real threat to the future of the Russian Federation.

Yes because it’ll naturally have to be the one or the other. Can’t have both at the same time.

But wait! Aren’t you knee-jerking a bit there with the Chechen? Lets not jump to conclusions, when it could just as well be fundamentalist Amish terrorists (Amishofascists) or Icelandic insurgents.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/7 "2004-08-25T15:34:57Z")

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Rune, I didn’t know you and Duffer were related. I suppose I should have seen the resemblance with both of your heads in your asses, though. My mistake.

Sam

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/8 "2004-08-25T15:44:57Z")

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GaWd I didn’t know you and spectrum were related. I suppose I should have seen the resemblance with both of your heads up each other asses, though. My mistake.

Rune

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/9 "2004-08-25T15:53:51Z")

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Yes, most people are shocked to find that out. 😉

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**Author:** ![spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spectrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spectrum)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/10 "2004-08-25T15:56:53Z")

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Hell, I’m shocked to find that out!

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/11 "2004-08-25T16:17:27Z")

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Now if we could just agree to stick our heads up each other asses, then we could all be one big happy family. _sniff_ _sniff_ …what a beautiful thought. _sniff_ _sniff_

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/12 "2004-08-25T16:25:21Z")

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Not that it has anything to do with the topic (family relations) but you know the cold war is over when Pravda publishes a story titled: “Porn makes you happy.” … and speculates whether it should be mandatory.

> **[Scott S: Concerning the airplane crash](https://english.pravda.ru/opinion/6683-crash/)**
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> I too am an American,  I unlike some of the other letters that have been and probably will be posted, don't feel your pain.  I do hope that this

> **[Should Pornography be Mandatory?](https://english.pravda.ru/news/society/18650-n/)**
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> Someone gets groovy with it, someone hates it, but no one is indifferent to it (except for blind people, maybe). So, to what extent is it good and to what e...

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/13 "2004-08-25T17:00:58Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Yeah, God forbid we’d be worried about actual terrorists.

Am not whining about that, but it troubles me that there is no worthy opposition to Putin mix that with his Presidential powers and we’re in for trouble.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/14 "2004-08-25T17:01:23Z")

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Quick! Invade a nearby country!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/15 "2004-08-25T17:06:00Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Yeah, God forbid we’d be worried about actual terrorists.

Well it happened here. I’m not afraid of any terrorists, but I’m _very_ afraid of how this country has responded to the crisis.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/16 "2004-08-25T18:25:02Z")

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Pardon my intrusion, but could someone direct me to the thread about two Russian planes crashing?

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/17 "2004-08-25T18:42:22Z")

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[MPSIMS thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=272841) for Mr. Moose.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/18 "2004-08-25T19:00:10Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> [MPSIMS thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=272841) for Mr. Moose.

WHOOOSH!!!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/19 "2004-08-25T19:02:24Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> My bet is that its Chechen Seperatists.

I’m betting on shitty maintenance and coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/20 "2004-08-25T19:05:30Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> WHOOOSH!!!

Um, 😕 what whoosh?

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