# 2 Russian planes lost, could be terrorism. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405 "2004-08-25T05:02:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/21 "2004-08-25T19:06:06Z")
One plane raised the hijack alarm though. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/22 "2004-08-25T19:06:30Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’m betting on shitty maintenance and coincidence. Yeah, you have to be a brave soul to get on one of those Tupelovs (sp?) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/23 "2004-08-25T19:25:17Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > Um, 😕 what whoosh? I assumed that **BJMoose** was making a tongue in cheek comment about how this thread had already been hijacked. Perhaps it was I who was whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/24 "2004-08-25T19:48:27Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I assumed that **BJMoose** was making a tongue in cheek comment about how this thread had already been hijacked. Perhaps it was I who was whooshed. Upon re-reading, I think **BJMoose** made a tongue in cheek comment about how the OP could have gone either way with the thread title and it turned out to be the latter. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/25 "2004-08-25T20:24:49Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > Quick! Invade a nearby country! No, Damnit! Haven’t you been paying attention? In this sort of situation, you invade a country that’s far away! Got it? For the Russians, I’m guessing Venezuela. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/26 "2004-08-26T14:18:53Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I assumed that **BJMoose** was making a tongue in cheek comment about how this thread had already been hijacked. Perhaps it was I who was whooshed. > [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > Upon re-reading, I think **BJMoose** made a tongue in cheek comment about how the OP could have gone either way with the thread title and it turned out to be the latter. **Ashtar** wins. Given my interest in aviation (necessary when one lives with a flying squirrel for fourty-five years), I was a bit disappointed that the thread had strayed from the topic so far and so fast. If it helps, when I saw **Jeff** ’s thoughtfully-provided link, I thought “Figures - someone undercuts my snark by finding a legit thread somewhere!” And you’ll definitely be happy to know that I whooshed myself in this august forum just last week. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/27 "2004-08-26T14:35:42Z")
Anything new going on? I haven’t heard squat. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/28 "2004-08-26T15:14:19Z")
> [@BJMoose](#): > > **Ashtar** wins. Given my interest in aviation (necessary when one lives with a flying squirrel for fourty-five years), I was a bit disappointed that the thread had strayed from the topic so far and so fast. I don’t think there really was a topic to begin with. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/29 "2004-08-26T16:30:09Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Anything new going on? I haven’t heard squat. Yes, the Chechens have denied responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/30 "2004-08-26T16:40:21Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Yes, the Chechens have denied responsibility. And we all know they’re not shy about claiming responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/31 "2004-08-27T07:16:51Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > Rune, I didn’t know you and Duffer were related. I suppose I should have seen the resemblance with both of your heads in your asses, though. My mistake. > > Sam Awww, aren’t you just so cute!?! Uh, how did that whole terrorism knee-jerk reaction turn out? Or as Dr. Phil would say: “How’s that theory working out for ya?” ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/32 "2004-08-27T14:02:03Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > I don’t think there really was a topic to begin with. 🙂 Can’t argue with that. I still can’t figure out why this thread was in the Pit, unless someone was expecting a scintillating discussion of Russian maintenance procedures. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/33 "2004-08-27T14:04:41Z")
> [@BJMoose](#): > > Can’t argue with that. I still can’t figure out why this thread was in the Pit, unless someone was expecting a scintillating discussion of Russian maintenance procedures. Sometimes the best maintenance in the world [won’t help.](http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/27/russia.planecrash/index.html) It’s looking like Chechans afterall. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/34 "2004-08-27T14:33:36Z")
A group calling itself the Islambouli Brigades as claimed responsibility on a radical Muslim website. They say they did it on behalf of their Chechan comrades. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/35 "2004-08-27T14:49:46Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > Sometimes the best maintenance in the world [won’t help.](http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/27/russia.planecrash/index.html) It’s looking like Chechans afterall. It was obviously Bin Laden. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/36 "2004-08-27T14:58:57Z")
Two planes almost simultaneous… smells like Al Qaeda style… but I doubt it. Chechen separatists for sure did it… as for Putin I agree that he is the most dangerous thing for Russian “democracy”. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/37 "2004-08-27T15:37:01Z")
What’s this “al qaeda style” crap I’m always hearing about? Explosions and people dying are lowest common denominators of _every single fucking terrorist attack_ known to man. Please, stop insulting our intelligence. Also I saw that it may have been “AQ linked” Chechen terrorists. AQ is not fucking CHAOS, it’s a few hundred guys that hang out in caves for christ’s sake. Bah ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/38 "2004-08-27T16:02:18Z")
[BBC News](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3604134.stm) says the explosive was hexogen, used in earlier apartment building bombings by Chechen separatists. Don’t know how common this stuff is, though, so couldn’t say what it means that it was used. The article also says the “Islambouli Brigades” have claimed responsibility, but it doesn’t say who they are or where they come from. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/39 "2004-08-27T19:20:34Z")
> [@Dead Badger](#): > > The article also says the “Islambouli Brigades” have claimed responsibility, but it doesn’t say who they are or where they come from. They’re a spin-off group from the “Woulibouli Army”, who were notoriously L-7 back in the 60s. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405/40 "2004-08-27T22:19:33Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Awww, aren’t you just so cute!?! Uh, how did that whole terrorism knee-jerk reaction turn out? Or as Dr. Phil would say: “How’s that theory working out for ya?” Apologies to **GaWd**. I heard on CBS radio news that apparently one of the planes tested positive for explosives. Damn, knee-jerk me. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-russian-planes-lost-could-be-terrorism/261405.md?page=1)