# 2 year old smokes 40 cigarettes a day. WTF?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 31, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401 "2010-05-31T17:35:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/21 "2010-06-01T03:04:58Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> Geesh, I can’t imagine smoking two packs a day.

It’s not much fun, trust me.

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**Author:** ![palacheck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@palacheck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palacheck)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/22 "2010-06-01T03:08:25Z")

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Ya know a kid spends all day at the sweatshop and he can’t even come home and smoke a few cigarettes to relax. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/23 "2010-06-01T03:11:25Z")

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The end of the linked video is hysterical watching him smoke. It’s so bizzare looking.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/24 "2010-06-01T03:26:07Z")

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I just saw this somewhere else. It was deeply disturbing. People are weird.

Also, I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/25 "2010-06-01T06:35:26Z")

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The thing that struck me was the kid’s body language and demeanor. He’s like a cross between a foreman at a dock yard, a mafia boss, and Jabba the Hutt.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/26 "2010-06-01T07:26:43Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> A few years ago I knew a guy whose young son (I am not sure of his age, maybe about 5 or 6) would seek out and _eat_ cigarette butts from ashtrays, the ground, or the like. He kept turning up with his face smeared with ash. It seemed like his parents had given up trying to stop him

Why wouldn’t they just stop smoking? I mean, I realize it isn’t quite that easy, but if I had a kid who was hell bent on eating cigg butts, he’d have an issue finding them within 100 feet of my house.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/27 "2010-06-01T07:46:56Z")

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> [@Shamozzle](#):
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> The thing that struck me was the kid’s body language and demeanor. He’s like a cross between a foreman at a dock yard, a mafia boss, and Jabba the Hutt.

I know, he is going to grow up into an absolute bully, that will push people around and be rude.

If he lives - what are the chemicals in cigarette smoke going to do to developing lung cells?! The chemicals floating around in his blood may do nasty things to his organs. I can see him dying of cancer in 5-7 years. No matter how obnoxious someone is they don’t deserve to die that way.

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/28 "2010-06-01T08:32:21Z")

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> [@Shamozzle](#):
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> The thing that struck me was the kid’s body language and demeanor. He’s like a cross between a foreman at a dock yard, a mafia boss, and Jabba the Hutt.

Hah!

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**Author:** ![Seamack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@Seamack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seamack)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/29 "2010-06-01T08:49:38Z")

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I just find it upsetting, sickening and just not funny. Maybe being a parent who has struggled and continues to struggle with nicotine addiction gives me a different perspective. But I fail to see the humour and just find the image of an infant inhaling cigarette smoke nauseating.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/30 "2010-06-01T08:51:54Z")

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Oh, come on. Child abuse is funny!

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**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/31 "2010-06-01T10:02:30Z")

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…Even more when it happens far away, in the third world 😃 !

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/32 "2010-06-01T10:04:03Z")

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Next they’re going to tell us that domestic violence isn’t funny. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![JollyGoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dec6dc/32.png) [@JollyGoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JollyGoon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/33 "2010-06-01T16:24:57Z")

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> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#):
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> …Even more when it happens far away, in the third world 😃 !

I’m from Indonesia and at first I found it funny, then sad, then pathetic, then simply infuriating. You wouldn’t believe the percentage of people here that smoke and how much it permeates into ones consciousness just by living here. The most popular sports leage is called the Djarum (cig company) Indonesian Super League, the football cup’s called Copa Dji Sam Soe (cig company), same thing with all the other sports leagues or cups here. If you go to a concert, festival, convention or any other event in which more than 4 people congregate it will undoubtedly be sponsored by tobacco companies.

Ther just isn’t any social stigma linked with smoking here. Hell, once in high school a teacher of mine lit up just outside the door, and this is in one of the (if not the) top state school in Indonesia! Smoking isn’t bad here, cigarette companies even give out scholarships! They can’t be bad these tobacco companies, they’re helping to develop our youth.

I am in no way condoning the actions of these parents, far from it, but what you guys got to know is that being a non-smoker round these parts where cig ads are displayed in full view from an elementary school and (according to the ministry of health in 2004) 70% of people smoke (that’s over 140 million people, 70 smokers/km2) is next to impossible.

Yes, these _parents_ are undeniably crappy ones but then again they are a product of their ill-educated, poorer than dirt poor society.

It’s enough to make one want to smoke.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/34 "2010-06-01T16:41:44Z")

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That’s just nuts. Unbelievable, and sad.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/35 "2010-06-01T16:47:17Z")

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> [@Shamozzle](#):
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> The thing that struck me was the kid’s body language and demeanor. He’s like a cross between a foreman at a dock yard, a mafia boss, and Jabba the Hutt.

I can see him doing an E\*Trade commercial.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/36 "2010-06-01T16:51:45Z")

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So… they gotta put him on a shoulder and burp him after each girt?

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/37 "2010-06-01T17:04:35Z")

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> [@Seamack](#):
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> I just find it upsetting, sickening and just not funny. Maybe being a parent who has struggled and continues to struggle with nicotine addiction gives me a different perspective. But I fail to see the humour and just find the image of an infant inhaling cigarette smoke nauseating.

You’re not understanding human nature then. Horror can be funny. It’s also humorous when you are faced with extreme _incongruity_.

The video of the kid smoking, as someone said above, looking in some ways like a miniature adult/Jabba the Hutt cross - you look at it and it just does not compute. It’s incongruous and one’s brain goes all kerflooey at the sight.

So no, not “delightful ha-ha” but rather “oh, how sick and bizarre ha-ha”.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/38 "2010-06-01T17:21:27Z")

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As **Swallow** mentioned, I’m not looking at the kid and chuckling delightfully. My amusement is like the Comedian’s.

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**Author:** ![moldybread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@moldybread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moldybread)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/39 "2010-06-01T17:27:13Z")

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The parents need to be throatpunched. Not that it would help, but would be rewarding none the less.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2-year-old-smokes-40-cigarettes-a-day-wtf/541401/40 "2010-06-01T19:07:03Z")

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I thought it was American kids that were supposed to have the obesity problem?

Like others here I’m getting pretty sick of enablers everywhere giving dogs, children, spouses, etc. everything they want and whining about how they don’t know what else to do.

Our pediatrician friend was telling us about parents she deals with who enable their kids poor eating habits.  
“You’re child is overweight. You need to stop feeding them sweets and fats.”  
“But Junior won’t eat anything else.”  
“Have you tried giving him meats and vegetables?”  
“Yes, but he refuses to eat them.”  
“So then what do you do?”  
“Give him what he wants.”  
“Why?”  
“Because he needs to eat something.”  
“Do you really think he’ll starve to death before he eats meats and vegetables?”  
“But I don’t want him to be hungry.”  
and around and around they go.

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