# 20-0 NFL simulation game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl, basketball-nba\ **Created:** [June 4, 2026, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614 "2026-06-04T13:24:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/1 "2026-06-04T13:24:56Z")
Here’s the NFL version of the NBA simulator that was recently posted. > **[20-0 — Can you build an undefeated NFL team?](https://www.20-0.com/)** > > Spin a slot machine of all-time NFL teams, draft a roster of legends, and find out if your team could go a perfect 20-0. Inspired by 82-0.com. I haven’t tried it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/2 "2026-06-04T13:41:25Z")
Just need the Tecmo-era Bo Jackson and 20-0 is a dunker. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/3 "2026-06-04T16:09:02Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I haven’t tried it yet. I tried a quick one. I had to to cut it short before I picked a full lineup, but I noticed a potential pitfall early on: You absolutely must get lucky on a QB. And you have to be really careful if there’s an excellent QB available on the same roll with even a HOF-level RB or WR. Pick that all-timer RB or WR and pass on the excellent QB … you could end up with bupkus at QB. The stat ranges are more stark in the NFL simulator than in the NBA simulator. In the NBA game, it’s trivial (unless your rolls are abysmal) to trot out four or five Hall of Famers and score 70-12 or better. Just one try with the NFL simulator made clear how much harder of an exercise it is. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/4 "2026-06-04T16:22:02Z")
It’s fun rolling the Browns. So many QBs to choose from! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/5 "2026-06-04T18:12:29Z")
I finally got 20-0! > **[My all-time NFL team went 20-0](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAxOTU5NiIsMjAwN10sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMTc5MTUiLDIwMDJdLFsiV1IiLCIwMC0wMDMxMzgxIiwyMDIyXSxbIlRFIiwiMDAtMDAwMzAzNSIsMjAwNl0sWyJGTEVYMSIsIjAwLTAwMjE5NzYiLDIwMDZdLFsiRkxFWDIiLCJzYW5kZXJzLWIiLDE5OTddXX0)** > > Grade S+ (Immortal) · 588 pts · Offense only · Classic. Can you go 20-0? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/6 "2026-06-04T18:18:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I finally got 20-0! > > [20-0 — a 20-0 team](https://www.20-0.com/r/JYloLOi) That’s some studly RBs there. Seems a shame to waste Brady running the Veer, though 😜 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/7 "2026-06-04T18:30:00Z")
They were all good pass catchers, so I’m sure he get make it work. ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/8 "2026-06-04T18:39:29Z")
I got insanely lucky at my 2nd attempt (offence only). Of over 16000 20-0 teams mine is currently ranked 129th. > **[My all-time NFL team went 20-0](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAxMDM0NiIsMjAxM10sWyJSQiIsImRhdmlzLXRkIiwxOTk4XSxbIldSIiwiMDAtMDAzMzA0MCIsMjAxOF0sWyJURSIsIjAwLTAwMjc2NTYiLDIwMTddLFsiRkxFWDEiLCIwMC0wMDIwNTM2IiwyMDA2XSxbIkZMRVgyIiwiMDAtMDAzMzI4MCIsMjAxOV1dfQ)** > > Grade S+ (Immortal) · 625 pts · Offense only · Classic. Can you go 20-0? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/9 "2026-06-04T19:12:47Z")
So I guess like fantasy football, it’s best to stack RBs in the flex spot? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/10 "2026-06-04T19:47:25Z")
Not necessarily: > **[My all-time NFL team went 20-0](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAyMDUzMSIsMjAxMV0sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMzA0OTYiLDIwMTRdLFsiV1IiLCJicm9va3MtciIsMTk5NV0sWyJURSIsIjAwLTAwMDYxMDEiLDIwMDhdLFsiRkxFWDEiLCIwMC0wMDMzMDQwIiwyMDIzXSxbIkZMRVgyIiwiMDAtMDAzMDQzMSIsMjAxOF1dfQ)** > > Grade S+ (Immortal) · 589 pts · Offense only · Classic. Can you go 20-0? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/11 "2026-06-04T21:10:10Z")
Woohoo, 630 points, good enough for top 50. > **[My all-time NFL team went 20-0](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAxOTU5NiIsMjAwN10sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMzI3NjQiLDIwMjBdLFsiV1IiLCIwMC0wMDMzOTA4IiwyMDIxXSxbIlRFIiwiMDAtMDAzOTMzOCIsMjAyNF0sWyJGTEVYMSIsIjAwLTAwMzg1NDIiLDIwMjVdLFsiRkxFWDIiLCIwMC0wMDMzMDQwIiwyMDIzXV19)** > > Grade S+ (Immortal) · 630 pts · Offense only · Classic. Can you go 20-0? I wish there was a “free” mode. I wanna see if the 2007 Pats go 19-1. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/12 "2026-06-04T22:01:29Z")
I’ve run about 20 simulations, and got up to 19-1. Not giving up yet! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/13 "2026-06-05T01:20:48Z")
Another: [20-0 — a 20-0 team](https://www.20-0.com/r/OTt5ZQ5) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/14 "2026-06-05T03:13:57Z")
19-1 picking both defense and offense: > **[My all-time NFL team went 19-1](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAzNDc5NiIsMjAxOV0sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMjM1MDAiLDIwMDZdLFsiV1IiLCIwMC0wMDM2MzU4IiwyMDIzXSxbIlRFIiwiY2hyaXN0ZW5zZW4tdC1sdiIsMTk4M10sWyJGTEVYMSIsIjAwLTAwMjE5NzYiLDIwMDVdLFsiRkxFWDIiLCIwMC0wMDMyNzY0IiwyMDIyXSxbIkVER0UiLCIwMC0wMDIxMTQ2IiwyMDA5XSxbIkRUIiwiMDAtMDAzNDMzMyIsMjAyMl0sWyJMQiIsIjAwLTAwMTE0MTMiLDE5OTldLFsiQ0IiLCIwMC0wMDI5NjkwIiwyMDE1XSxbIlMiLCIwMC0wMDI2OTkwIiwyMDE1XSxbIkRGTEVYIiwiMDAtMDAzMTA0MCIsMjAxNl1dfQ)** > > Grade A+ (Elite) · 1150 pts · Both sides · Classic. Can you go 20-0? Defense is tough. You gotta chase raw stats and forget about real-life guys that “you know are/were good”. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/15 "2026-06-05T10:54:04Z")
19-1 once again, both offense and defense: > **[My all-time NFL team went 19-1](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAzNDc5NiIsMjAxOV0sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMjExNzkiLDIwMDNdLFsiV1IiLCIwMC0wMDI3NzkzIiwyMDE0XSxbIlRFIiwiMDAtMDAzMzA5MCIsMjAyNV0sWyJGTEVYMSIsIjAwLTAwMzEzODEiLDIwMjFdLFsiRkxFWDIiLCIwMC0wMDM1NjQwIiwyMDIwXSxbIkVER0UiLCJ0YXlsb3ItbCIsMTk4Nl0sWyJEVCIsIjAwLTAwMzQyODUiLDIwMjRdLFsiTEIiLCIwMC0wMDA1MzIyIiwyMDA1XSxbIkNCIiwiMDAtMDAzNDIwMyIsMjAyM10sWyJTIiwiMDAtMDAyNTQyNCIsMjAxMV0sWyJERkxFWCIsIjAwLTAwMzM4ODYiLDIwMjBdXX0)** > > Grade A+ (Elite) · 1153 pts · Both sides · Classic. Can you go 20-0? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/16 "2026-06-05T12:16:47Z")
First two tries were not good, then third time’s the charm with 614 points. > **[My all-time NFL team went 20-0](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAxMDM0NiIsMjAwNl0sWyJSQiIsInNhbmRlcnMtYiIsMTk5N10sWyJXUiIsIjAwLTAwMjc4NzQiLDIwMTRdLFsiVEUiLCIwMC0wMDMzODU4IiwyMDI0XSxbIkZMRVgxIiwiMDAtMDAyNjE5NSIsMjAxMV0sWyJGTEVYMiIsIjAwLTAwMzA0OTYiLDIwMTRdXX0)** > > Grade S+ (Immortal) · 614 pts · Offense only · Classic. Can you go 20-0? ---
**Author:** ![20-0Nick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/d26b3c/32.png) [@20-0Nick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/20-0Nick)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/18 "2026-06-10T05:42:58Z")
The admin team deleted my account, so let’s try this again. I am a real person! And I am the person who created this game. I am new to this message board, but I wanted to say thank all of you guys for playing the game, and I really appreciate the feedback. I won’t link my Twitter this time, but my name is Nick, and it’s very nice to meet you all. I’m very thankful for all of your support. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/19 "2026-06-13T05:13:33Z")
Pleased to meet you, Nick, and welcome to the boards. Cool app you made! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/20 "2026-06-13T10:33:57Z")
> [@20-0Nick](#): > > … my name is Nick, and it’s very nice to meet you all. Welcome aboard, Nick! Peruse around a bit — this is a great place for the curious. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614/21 "2026-06-16T02:10:45Z")
@20-0Nick the new seasonal variation feature is a nice addition. Just got [my first 20-0 team](https://www.20-0.com/result?r=eyJtIjoiYyIsInIiOltbIlFCIiwiMDAtMDAyNzkzOSIsMjAxNV0sWyJSQiIsIjAwLTAwMzMwNDUiLDIwMTZdLFsiV1IiLCIwMC0wMDM4NTQzIiwyMDI1XSxbIlRFIiwiMDAtMDAzOTA2NSIsMjAyM10sWyJGTEVYMSIsIjAwLTAwMzYyMjMiLDIwMjBdLFsiRkxFWDIiLCIwMC0wMDE1MjkwIiwyMDAwXSxbIkVER0UiLCIwMC0wMDIyNzQwIiwyMDA3XSxbIkRUIiwiMDAtMDAwNjA1MSIsMjAwMF0sWyJMQiIsIjAwLTAwMzEwNDAiLDIwMTVdLFsiQ0IiLCIwMC0wMDIwMTk5IiwyMDAzXSxbIlMiLCIwMC0wMDI3MDE4IiwyMDEyXSxbIkRGTEVYIiwiMDAtMDAyOTU4NSIsMjAxN11dfQ) using that mode. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-0-nfl-simulation-game/1030614.md?page=2)