# 20 years for your crime against that child is insufficient punishment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2004, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875 "2004-02-06T18:17:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/1 "2004-02-06T18:17:36Z")
[This piece of societal excrement](http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-nyplea043655334feb04,0,7832316,print.story?coll=ny-news-print) is facing 20 years for impregnating **an 8 year-old**. As Father of a little girl, my mind conjures images befitting the Middle Ages in dealing with this filthy excuse for humanity. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/2 "2004-02-06T20:54:23Z")
What a piece of shit. Not to worry, though. I’m sure he’ll be raped and beaten many, many times while in prison. From what I understand, they tend to not like child molesters in there. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/3 "2004-02-06T21:10:03Z")
Now, now. One needs to keep prison space available for non-violent drug offenders you know. What a piece of garbage. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/4 "2004-02-06T21:21:00Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I’m sure he’ll be raped and beaten many, many times while in prison. From what I understand, they tend to not like child molesters in there. Hooray! Let’s rejoice in more crimes against humanity! Jesus CHRIST. When are people going to stop wishing rape on others? WHEN WILL WE REALIZE HOW FUCKING BARBARIC WE SOUND? In exchange for suffering we demand more suffering! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/5 "2004-02-06T21:24:01Z")
How the hell do you impregnate an 8-year-old, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/6 "2004-02-06T22:13:16Z")
I’m guessing the old fashioned way (sperm meets egg, etc…). Girls can develop earlier then expected these days. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/7 "2004-02-06T22:35:50Z")
> [@The Man With The Golden Gun](#): > > How the hell do you impregnate an 8-year-old, anyway? My paternal grandmother being mensturating when she was 8. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/8 "2004-02-06T22:42:49Z")
ja ja! She being menstruating! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/9 "2004-02-06T22:48:37Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Not to worry, though. I’m sure he’ll be raped and beaten many, many times while in prison. From what I understand, they tend to not like child molesters in there. While I agree with **jarbabyj** , I just thought I should mention that what you say ain’t necessarily so. In most prisons today sex offenders are a protected class that do not get placed within the general prison population. A lot of prison have sex offender sections that are completely separate, sometimes even in separate buildings. While I agree that wishing sex offenders will get raped in prison is barbaric, I am outraged that they are given special status/protection like this. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/10 "2004-02-06T22:49:49Z")
I burning your Tampax. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/11 "2004-02-06T23:10:40Z")
GAH! I threw my back out and I’m taking some rather impressive pain killers. I knew that post didn’t look quite right… BEGAN!! ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/12 "2004-02-07T01:30:50Z")
> [@](#): > > 20 years for your crime against that child is insufficient punishment How many years would be appropriate, in your opinion, **danceswithcats**? Twenty years is about one third of a person’s life. Isn’t that more than enough? ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/13 "2004-02-07T04:19:49Z")
From your query **Dog80** , I doubt that you’re a Father. In the course of my life, I’ve seen few things equal the primal rage aroused in a parent when their child has been hurt by another. I too was obtuse to these feelings until becoming a Dad. What punishment is proper? I thought of 20 days. 20 Dads. Anything short of ending the life of the guilty party is fair game. Each day would seem like a year. I’m certain that there would be no shortage of volunteers to assist with the administration of the sentence. “She groped for words. I supplied them mentally (“_He_ broke my heart. _You_ merely broke my life”).” _Lolita_- Vladimir Nabokov Our children are our future. Destroy one of these innocents, and your privileges are forfeit, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/14 "2004-02-07T15:18:33Z")
> [@](#): > > the girl’s grandmother found a “Dear Dad” love letter in which the child wrote that she enjoyed having sex with him and added, “I want to marry you.” ‘Disturbing’ is the only word I can think of. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/15 "2004-02-07T16:36:06Z")
> [@danceswithcats](#): > > What punishment is proper? I thought of 20 days. 20 Dads. Anything short of ending the life of the guilty party is fair game. Each day would seem like a year. I’m certain that there would be no shortage of volunteers to assist with the administration of the sentence. I think my father would have an interesting approach to that. Since this guy would presumably be waiting to be bludgeoned with whatever. So after my father got done telling this individual about _his_ father, this individual would spend the rest of the day sitting … and waiting. And any time he started to relax my father would just flex his arms a bit, or start to get up … something to put this guy on edge. 20 hours of waiting for what would seem like the inevitable. 20 hours of this individual not knowing when physical punishment would come, what form it would take, how long it’d last… My father has little desire to hurt anyone. But if he wants to, he can make the opposite look the case. Benching 500+ lbs helps with that, I’m told. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/16 "2004-02-07T17:05:02Z")
> [@AngelicGemma](#): > > ‘Disturbing’ is the only word I can think of. I can think of a ton more. Most of them not for proper company. Some people on this board have advocated the repeal of age of consent laws. I hope they read and think about this case. ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/17 "2004-02-07T17:12:45Z")
> [@Dog80](#): > > How many years would be appropriate, in your opinion, **danceswithcats**? > Twenty years is about one third of a person’s life. Isn’t that more than enough? More than enough? Are you kidding? This man has shaped this child’s entire life. He has put her at severe risk. She could have lost her life during the abortion. How can she grow up normally? At the age of eight, she has more life experience than my 13 year old…more life experience than when I was 18. She will have to go through years of therapy to be able to have a chance to live normally. When other kids at her school find out, if they haven’t already, they will make her life even more miserable. How is spending twenty years in jail “more than enough”? I can’t think of anything that would be “more than enough” where this guy is concerned. ~J ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/18 "2004-02-07T17:43:52Z")
Didn’t some middle-eastern fellow who is highly regarded in many places today once opine that if anyone caused one of the little ones to come to harm it would be better for that person if he had never been born? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/19 "2004-02-07T19:21:29Z")
Not that many years ago, the definition of a virgin was a girl who could run faster than her father. ---
**Author:** ![Paradoxical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Paradoxical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paradoxical)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2004, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875/20 "2004-02-07T20:08:30Z")
> [@qts](#): > > Not that many years ago, the definition of a virgin was a girl who could run faster than her father. Disgustingly true… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/20-years-for-your-crime-against-that-child-is-insufficient-punishment/227875.md?page=2)