# 200 idiotic ACLU staffers are trying to destroy this invaluable organization **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452 "2017-10-10T08:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/181 "2017-10-12T09:07:58Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > You’re acting fucking demented. Yeah, I care about your opinion on my mental state exactly as much as I do for that of **octopus** - not one fucking iota. > [@](#): > > Right now you remind me of **Der Trihs** on a bad day Umm, is that supposed to be an insult? > [@](#): > > , except less capable of actually arguing your point. I raised my point quite normally initially - _before_ some goat-felching shit-for-brains started telling me I’d put no thought into my opinions. At that point, given where we are, I decided to counter subtle insinuations as to my mentality with outright vitriol, because decorum is for GD. Asshole. And it’s working, because look what syphilitic cactusfucker is still replying to my posts, even though they were supposedly “Moving on to literally anyone else…” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/182 "2017-10-12T09:16:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > When you defend the evil speech of an evil organization, you are helping them. When an attorney defends a serial killer in court, they are helping them. Does that make it wrong? Terrible people still have rights, and they should – but they won’t if no one defends those rights. We should vigorously oppose white supremacists in many ways, but denying them their First Amendment rights isn’t one of those ways. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/183 "2017-10-12T09:29:13Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Considering the shitstain who thinks I’m demented, I don’t give a fuck. You’re a dumb, partisan, assholish, Neanderthal son of a bitch, I wear opprobrium from you and your loutish clique as a badge of pride. All I need to do is convince a narrow majority that your retarded rambling is hate speech and off to the gulags you go. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/184 "2017-10-12T09:36:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > All I need to do is convince a narrow majority that your retarded rambling is hate speech and off to the gulags you go. For most of American history (though he’s not American, by the way), even this wouldn’t be necessary. Until quite recently, black people in America didn’t actually have freedom of speech in any sense. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/185 "2017-10-12T10:27:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > All I need to do is convince a narrow majority that your retarded rambling is hate speech and off to the gulags you go. The cactusfucker using “retarded” as a pejorative has precisely the intersection of the sets Fuck and All moral authority to tell me about hate speech. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/186 "2017-10-12T11:56:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The cactusfucker using “retarded” as a pejorative has precisely the intersection of the sets Fuck and All moral authority to tell me about hate speech. Someone’s triggered. I know why you are in favor of hate speech laws. Since you are a raging psychopath yourself you feel that without strong government keeping the masses in check we’d have anarchy. What you are doing is projection. Notice your profane and incoherent language when in a forum devoid of most rules and civility. Many still can act civilized, but MrDribble, (a reference to the drool on the chin?) can’t. And can’t you think of anything else but copulating with a plant? Or messing with a goat? What bizarre malady do you suffer from where those perverse thoughts preoccupy what you call a mind? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/187 "2017-10-12T12:05:44Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Until quite recently, black people in America didn’t actually have freedom of speech in any sense. [History lesson needed.](http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/douglass.htm) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/188 "2017-10-12T12:36:35Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [History lesson needed.](http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/douglass.htm) Douglass is a great example – he was only able to speak freely in relatively few places in the US… in many or even most parts of the US, he would have been arrested or killed because of what he said, with no consequences for his captors or killers. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/189 "2017-10-12T13:38:12Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Someone’s triggered. Someone sure knows all the AltRight trollspeak… > [@](#): > > I know why you are in favor of hate speech laws. You clearly have no fucking clue why I favour hate speech laws. Just a hint - it’s got fuckall to do with anything American. > [@](#): > > Since you are a raging psychopath yourself Is that another example of your excellent mental health opinion, alongside “retard”? > [@](#): > > you feel that without strong government keeping the masses in check we’d have anarchy. Bzzt. So wrong. You must have me confused with someone who _isn’t_ an anarchist. > [@](#): > > What you are doing is projection. Sure, Mr Pot. > [@](#): > > Notice your profane and incoherent language when in a forum devoid of most rules and civility. Aaw, did the mean words offend you? How does it feel, Snowflake? > [@](#): > > Many still can act civilized, but MrDribble Your reading comprehension is … well, about as good as can be expected > [@](#): > > , (a reference to the drool on the chin? Naah, my cum leaking from your Mom’s ass… > [@](#): > > ) can’t. You misspelled “won’t”. > [@](#): > > And can’t you think of anything else but copulating with a plant? Or messing with a goat? Unfortunately, the forum language rules prevent me from saying what I really want to… > [@](#): > > What bizarre malady do you suffer from where those perverse thoughts preoccupy what you call a mind? I didn’t invent cactusfuckery and goat felching. And I’d rather think of that than how sweet Nazi ass must taste, which seems to be your default fantasy, based on how eager you always are to defend them. Inbetween all the cactusfucking, I mean. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/190 "2017-10-12T13:47:35Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Someone sure knows all the AltRight trollspeak… > You clearly have no fucking clue why I favour hate speech laws. Just a hint - it’s got fuckall to do with anything American. > Is that another example of your excellent mental health opinion, alongside “retard”? > Bzzt. So wrong. You must have me confused with someone who _isn’t_ an anarchist. > Sure, Mr Pot. > Aaw, did the mean words offend you? How does it feel, Snowflake? > Your reading comprehension is … well, about as good as can be expected > Naah, my cum leaking from your Mom’s ass… > You misspelled “won’t”. > Unfortunately, the forum language rules prevent me from saying what I really want to…I didn’t invent cactusfuckery and goat felching. > And I’d rather think of that than how sweet Nazi ass must taste, which seems to be your default fantasy, based on how eager you always are to defend them. Inbetween all the cactusfucking, I mean. Somebody’s off his meds today. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/191 "2017-10-12T13:47:54Z")
via **SlackerInc.** : > [@](#): > > What’s more, the effect of the Charlottesville rally was not to empower the alt-right. On the contrary, the public display of abhorrent behavior and symbols seemingly weakened it. > > As I noted last month, the journalist Angela Nagle spent years on some of the most transgressive fringes of the web to write Kill All the Normies: Online Culture Wars From 4Chan and Tumblr to Trump and the Alt-Right. In an interview on Ezra Klein’s podcast and in “Goodbye Pepe,” she reported that the subculture she long observed was changed irrevocably after the parade of Nazis and killing of an anti-racist protester, because many who treated the subculture as a game, and told themselves its racism was ironic, had to confront how abhorrent and gravely serious it was. Not going to argue with any of this, but the online chucklefucks are kind of a sideshow. The ACLU filed suit on behalf of a real, local, neo-Confederate in Charlottesville, re: protesting the removal of a physical statue. We know that subset of the Right (or alt-right) isn’t playing and isn’t finished. There’s a lot of symbolism left to defend. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/192 "2017-10-12T14:03:22Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Somebody’s off his meds today. Oh, look, another mental health expert. Well, at least you’re already in the desert, it’ll make the cactus-fucking convenient for you. Off you go… ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/193 "2017-10-12T14:19:49Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Someone sure knows all the AltRight trollspeak…You clearly have no fucking clue why I favour hate speech laws. Just a hint - it’s got fuckall to do with anything American.Is that another example of your excellent mental health opinion, alongside “retard”?Bzzt. So wrong. You must have me confused with someone who _isn’t_ an anarchist.Sure, Mr Pot.Aaw, did the mean words offend you? How does it feel, Snowflake?Your reading comprehension is … well, about as good as can be expectedNaah, my cum leaking from your Mom’s ass…You misspelled “won’t”.Unfortunately, the forum language rules prevent me from saying what I really want to…I didn’t invent cactusfuckery and goat felching. > > And I’d rather think of that than how sweet Nazi ass must taste, which seems to be your default fantasy, based on how eager you always are to defend them. Inbetween all the cactusfucking, I mean. How special. That’s some serious ellipsisification in there and a mom insult too! :eek: What do you really want to say? Worst that’ll happen is Miller will ask you to not write it again. Whatever country you’re from, please take advantage of their free health care that your economic betters provide and have your mess refilled. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/194 "2017-10-12T14:28:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > How special. And the mental health jokes keep coming… > [@](#): > > That’s some serious ellipsisification in there and a mom insult too! Your Mom’s an ellipsisification … > [@](#): > > Worst that’ll happen is Miller will ask you to not write it again. No, I’m pretty sure a straight-up Warning is the worst that would happen if I deliberately broke the dumb Pit language rules. > [@](#): > > have your mess refilled. “mess refilled”? This an example of the superior intellect of the “civilized” person? You’re a credit to your cohort, Bubba. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/195 "2017-10-12T14:36:15Z")
Hey now! Typo and grammar Naziing is low even for the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/196 "2017-10-12T15:03:47Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Hey now! Typo and grammar Naziing is low even for the Pit. Well, you’d know all about the Naziing, I guess I’ll defer to your expertise. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/197 "2017-10-12T15:23:11Z")
Shouldn’t this OP be in the “Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O’ the Day” thread? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/198 "2017-10-12T15:30:05Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Hey now! Typo and grammar Naziing is low even for the Pit. You missed one - > [@](#): > > This an example of the superior intellect of the “civilized” person? You know who else missed verbs of being? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/199 "2017-10-12T16:22:08Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You missed one -You know who else missed verbs of being? > > Regards, > Shodan If I’d \*missed \*an initial “Is”, I wouldn’t have capitalized “This”, would I? It’s a form of conversational ellipsis, that sentence exactly transcribes how I’d ask the question verbally. So the answer is “no-one”. That answer your question? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-idiotic-aclu-staffers-are-trying-to-destroy-this-invaluable-organization/798452/200 "2017-10-12T17:23:09Z")
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