# "200 Reasons Why the Earth is Not A Spinning Ball": what the heck is The Atlantean Conspiracy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 29, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122 "2015-10-29T20:57:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/1 "2015-10-29T20:57:02Z")
Here are the 200 reasons the “spinning-ball” proponents are false: [The Atlantean Conspiracy: 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball](http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html) I thought it was satire. But throw in the Joos and the Olympic Logos, and the Masons and the Government and goddamn but this is deep. Is this a real named Conspiracy under which _everybody_’s conspiracies are subsumed? The list is actually fascinating for the manifold ways in which natural phenomena can be understood–some only by trying really hard, but perhaps many as a child would–or explanations of natural phenomena, each of which not understood, or re-misunderstood given the original misunderstandings, which are not even consistently (rigorously) misunderstood. At least. I tried categorizing the reasons such as most easily disproved by a 4-year old, most likely to be advanced by a non-kook, most difficult to grasp, most interesting in isolating a distinct historical conception of physics, or of mental illness, but then realized I had better things to do. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/2 "2015-10-29T23:25:12Z")
I saw a Jehovah’s Witnesses tract once that convincingly refuted evolution with this ironclad argument. (I quote here from memory, so not quite exact, but the tone is about right.) > [@](#): > > Have you ever seen a bird turn into a fish, or a fish turn into a bird? Of course not! Nobody has ever seen such a thing! This guy’s proofs are right up there with that. QED! ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/3 "2015-10-30T00:03:09Z")
> [@](#): > > If Earth were truly a spinning ball then many of these rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill, for example the Mississippi in its 3000 miles would have to ascend 11 miles before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. So can centrifugal force push a river back up towards the equator ? And is it easier to get a high jump record at the equator than at the pole ? ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/4 "2015-10-30T00:07:19Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels for example are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature. Wrongypoos. The Humber bridge was built with this in mind. Well known fact. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/5 "2015-10-30T00:22:30Z")
I really want to see a picture of what this guy thinks the earth looks like from space. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/6 "2015-10-30T00:27:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **MrQwertyasd** : > > So can centrifugal force push a river back up towards the equator ? > > And is it easier to get a high jump record at the equator than at the pole ? Yes to both. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/7 "2015-10-30T00:39:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes to both. So this must be the mysterious reason why Bob Beamon’s record held so long - he was jumping south-a-ways. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/8 "2015-10-30T00:54:24Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > So this must be the mysterious reason why Bob Beamon’s record held so long - he was jumping south-a-ways. Some posit that it was the high altitude and thus lower wind resistance. Plus it was just a damn fine jump where everything clicked in place subconsciously for him. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/9 "2015-10-30T01:01:55Z")
While the difference between polar & equatorial Earth gravity is 100% real, it is also pretty much negligible on a human scale. Physicists and very advanced engineers care about such differences. High jumpers and sporting records-certifying agencies do not. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/10 "2015-10-30T01:12:51Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > While the difference between polar & equatorial Earth gravity is 100% real, it is also pretty much negligible on a human scale. Physicists and very advanced engineers care about such differences. High jumpers and sporting records-certifying agencies do not. I think that’s what the Atlantean Conspiracy says too. No spinning effects on jumping. ---
**Author:** ![Ornery\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/da6949/32.png) [@Ornery\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ornery_Bob)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/11 "2015-10-30T02:26:39Z")
When I run across crackpots I usually feel like I’m glad they’re ranting about something like a flat Earth and not building bombs. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/12 "2015-10-30T02:54:45Z")
I read the first “proof” and claim horseshit … an experienced carpenter can discern the curvature of the Earth at 12,000 feet … I have and it’s my job to know. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/13 "2015-10-30T02:55:07Z")
Apparently the writer was banned from the Flat Earth Society, which for some reason I find hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/14 "2015-10-30T02:59:05Z")
Poe’s Law? I’ve glanced at enough weird babble that I can’t tell which is really clever and which is written by crackpots. ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/15 "2015-10-30T03:15:48Z")
One finds it hard to believe the guys is actually serious. But there are plenty of people that are so gullible and without the basic intellect to cope. So maybe he is. But the whole mega-conspiracy thing subsuming all conspiracies was done decades ago in the Illuminatis! trilogy. There is at least some clear overlap. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/16 "2015-10-30T03:33:25Z")
I’m not seeing a specific factual question in the OP. Let’s move this to MPSIMS. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/17 "2015-10-30T03:44:51Z")
200? You would think three or four good ones would be enough. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/18 "2015-10-30T05:10:43Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > 200? You would think three or four good ones would be enough. A lot of his “proofs” are just different examples of the same proof, really. Look at all his examples of railroad tracks – lots of different railroads, but all just the same “proof”. Likewise all the examples of canals. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/19 "2015-10-30T07:09:04Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > I saw a Jehovah’s Witnesses tract once that convincingly refuted evolution with this ironclad argument. (I quote here from memory, so not quite exact, but the tone is about right.) > > > [@](#): > > > > Have you ever seen a bird turn into a fish, or a fish turn into a bird? Of course not! Nobody has ever seen such a thing! > > This guy’s proofs are right up there with that. QED! I’ve seen a HouseFly ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2015, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122/20 "2015-10-30T07:11:07Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > 200? You would think three or four good ones would be enough. Exactly. One for each corner. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/200-reasons-why-the-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball-what-the-heck-is-the-atlantean-conspiracy/736122.md?page=2)