# 2001: A Space Odyssey

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 16, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997 "2008-11-16T14:45:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/142 "2018-11-10T19:38:02Z")

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> [@eburacum45](#):
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> Unexpected delays on route. perhaps.

That was a very long meeting.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/143 "2018-11-10T19:42:57Z")

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Hey, HAL wasn’t evil, he was just trying to do the job he had been assigned. A very important job. Sometimes you have to take drastic measures when a job that important is threatened.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/144 "2018-11-10T20:07:22Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> hey, hal wasn’t evil, he was just trying to do the job he had been assigned. A very important job. Sometimes you have to take drastic measures when a job that important is threatened.

```auto

priority one
insure return of organism
for analysis.
All other considerations secondary.
Crew expendable.

```

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**Author:** ![DB\_Coopa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@DB\_Coopa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DB_Coopa)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/145 "2018-11-10T20:38:20Z")

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I recently watched it on the big screen in 70mm. A great experience, and my appreciation for it has gone up a notch which I didn’t think was possible.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/146 "2018-11-10T21:01:21Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Hey, HAL wasn’t evil, he was just trying to do the job he had been assigned. A very important job. Sometimes you have to take drastic measures when a job that important is threatened.

I’ve still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/147 "2018-11-10T21:02:36Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> That was a very long meeting.

Note: before and after the meeting each had their own separate issues regarding the Earth in the sky.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/148 "2018-11-10T22:38:50Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I’ve still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.

Circulate the minutes of the meeting, HAL.

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**Author:** ![Oglomott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oglomott/32/3543_2.png) [@Oglomott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oglomott)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/149 "2018-11-11T22:17:06Z")

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Speaking of HAL, [mystratfordnow.com](http://mystratfordnow.com) is reporting that Douglas Rain has passed away at the age of 90.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/150 "2018-11-12T18:23:18Z")

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The BBC confirms it: [Douglas Rain: Actor who voiced Hal in 2001: A Space Odyssey dies - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46178930)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/151 "2019-01-07T18:11:16Z")

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Excerpts from the Alex North score which Kubrick decided not to use in _2001_:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=256NgMW4tQw

I think he made the right call.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/152 "2019-01-07T19:57:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Excerpts from the Alex North score which Kubrick decided not to use in _2001_:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=256NgMW4tQw
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> I think he made the right call.

I purchased one of the CDs of North’s score, and I have to agree. Much as I liked North’s work in _Spartacus_ (also Kubrick-directed) and **Cleopatra** , I think the straight classics work much better in **2001**.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/153 "2019-01-07T21:34:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I purchased one of the CDs of North’s score, and I have to agree. Much as I liked North’s work in _Spartacus_ (also Kubrick-directed) and **Cleopatra** , I think the straight classics work much better in **2001**.

Especially since the music North wrote included several cues for the Dawn of Man sequence, which is far better as silent (except for the brief monolith throb). North’s music for the moon stuff is actually quite lovely, though provides a very different emotional tone than the J.Strauss waltzes do.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/154 "2019-01-07T23:31:26Z")

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Thanks for the links. The music behind the introduction seemed way too complex for the minimalist images and titles. I thought I heard a bit of “Rite of Spring” ancestry for the drum heavy music behind the apes fighting. It would have been interesting to see what it was like when mixed in properly with the movie.

Still, silence, especially for the beginning of the Dawn of Man sequence, is much better.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/155 "2019-01-22T14:30:16Z")

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Reproduction _2001_ big movie posters up for sale: [http://www.historicaviation.com/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-Movie-Poster-On-Moon/productinfo/0071154/](http://www.historicaviation.com/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-Movie-Poster-On-Moon/productinfo/0071154/)

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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Erudite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ancient\_Erudite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Erudite)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/156 "2019-01-22T23:54:05Z")

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2001 is like a Charles Dickens book. Way too long, but with some delicious stuff in it.

Edit the movie down 30 minutes, and I think you’d have a better viewing experience.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/157 "2019-02-07T15:18:37Z")

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A cool \*2001 \*photographic project. Click for closeups: [Kubrick's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY - All 611 Shots | VashiVisuals Blog](http://vashivisuals.com/2001-a-space-odyssey-all-611-shots/)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/158 "2019-02-27T18:53:54Z")

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Just learned that Kubrick was honored two years ago with the naming of a mountain after him on Charon, Pluto’s moon: [Kubrick Mons - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubrick_Mons)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/159 "2019-02-28T13:47:15Z")

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Having just read the “Space Odyssey” book recommended here, I can honestly say that Kubrick was quite a dick. His off-the-cuff working style is one thing, but he would just throw away the studios money (in huge quantities) on whims with no idea if he was even going to use the purchased item. And he was so controlling and overbearing.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/160 "2019-02-28T13:52:32Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Having just read the “Space Odyssey” book recommended here, I can honestly say that Kubrick was quite a dick. His off-the-cuff working style is one thing, but he would just throw away the studios money (in huge quantities) on whims with no idea if he was even going to use the purchased item. And he was so controlling and overbearing.

Have you heard how Kubrick infuriated George C. Scott after the filming of Strangelove?

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-a-space-odyssey/472997/161 "2019-02-28T14:21:13Z")

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