# 2001 Space Odyssey remake

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 27, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048 "2003-08-27T19:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/41 "2003-08-28T23:51:17Z")

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I remembered the title of the book I mentioned earlier; it is called _The Lost Worlds of 2001_.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/42 "2003-08-29T00:37:43Z")

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Would one remake _Citizen Kane_? Nope. It stands just fine as it is. And so it is with _2001_. It’s a classic and doesn’t deserve to be effed with.

I have the theater lobby poster hanging in my living room, right alongside Fritz Lang’s _Metropolis_, another film I don’t want touched.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/43 "2003-08-29T03:05:13Z")

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I was thinking to myself that Hollywood would never attempt remaking 2001…Then I remembered that they remade \*\*Psyco \*\*\* _cries_

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/44 "2003-08-29T04:35:14Z")

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> Kubrick had trouble getting the studio to let him use the music he’d picked out for the soundtrack. Specifically, The Blue Danube. The studio heads felt that most people would associate the music with player pianos (since it was a common roll for them). Kubric told the studio heads that once anyone saw the film, they never would associate the music with player pianos again. Personally, I never associate the music used in the movie with anything else.

Player pianos? I’ve never heard that before. I’d heard that some thought the Blue Danube would be associated with something else. One place mentioned the Cocoanut Grove tragedy maybe the Blue Danube was a signature song there). It certainly didn’t have any such associations for me. Th only thing I associated The Blue Danube with was the Bob Clampett Fantasia parody **Corny Concerto** , where it’s the music the Geese (swans?) swim around the lake to. This is till the major association it as for Pepper Mill.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/45 "2003-08-29T07:21:09Z")

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IMDb will tell you this, but there was an entire original soundtrack for _2001_, but Kubrick decided not to use it. At first, the classical music was just filler while he waited for the actual score. Then he saw how well it worked and just used the classical music.

I really like _2001_, but the last 20 minutes (my favorite part) are, to me, very 60s/70s. A remake of it would seem really, really overindulgent, especially with pricier effects; the original just misses being overindulgent if you like it.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/46 "2003-08-29T21:00:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Marley23 \*  
> \*\*IMDb will tell you this, but there was an entire original soundtrack for _2001_, but Kubrick decided not to use it. At first, the classical music was just filler while he waited for the actual score. Then he saw how well it worked and just used the classical music. \*\*

You _can_ get the soundtrack that was written for the movie, however, I don’t recommend listening to it. The composer (who _wasn’t_ told that Kubrick had decided not to use his score, and only discovered it while watching the premiere), knew that Kubrick was probably going to want to keep the soundtrack he’d picked out, so he tried to compose something similar sounding to it. It sounds like a very poor imitation of the music Kubrick picked out.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/47 "2003-08-29T23:54:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steelerphan \*  
> \*\*Please don’t be upset, **Walloon.** It was late, and I was confusing the short story, which I read years ago, with the novelization. Clarke added much more to the novel, and the space baby blowing up an orbital nuke platform was much different from the Kubrick mystery ending.
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Actually, Kubrick originally planned for the starchild to blow up the nuke platforms, but decided it would be too much like the end of Dr. Strangelove.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/48 "2003-08-29T23:56:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Avumede \*  
> \*\*That is to say, Bowman killing HAL is the best murder scene ever made. \*\*

Ah, but HAL wasn’t dead, just brain damaged. If you remember, he gets revived in 2010, both book and movie. I’ll give you that scene is the best lobotomy ever filmed, though. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/49 "2003-08-30T17:27:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Quasimodem \*  
> \*\*Would one remake _Citizen Kane_? Nope. It stands just fine as it is. And so it is with _2001_. It’s a classic and doesn’t deserve to be effed with.
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> I have the theater lobby poster hanging in my living room, right alongside Fritz Lang’s _Metropolis_, another film I don’t want touched.
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> Thanks
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> Q \*\*

Actually, **Quasi** , I’m going to disagree with you here, slightly. I think that if _Metropolis_ were handed to the right director (say, Ridley Scott or Kubrick’s zombi), a decent remake of the film could be produced. Properly packaged when it hit DVD format, with the restored original, it might just get some folks to start watching silent movies again. _However_, I think that this would _only_ work with a director who knew what the hell he was doing, and sadly, there’s few of them working in Hollywood today.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/50 "2003-08-30T22:02:46Z")

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For the voice of Hal, there is no other choice but Al Gore.

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**Author:** ![Avumede](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/avumede/32/7235_2.png) [@Avumede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avumede)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/51 "2003-08-30T23:00:08Z")

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> Ah, but HAL wasn’t dead, just brain damaged. If you remember, he gets revived in 2010, both book and movie. I’ll give you that scene is the best lobotomy ever filmed, though.

I refuse to believe that 2001 has a sequel. 2010 is not a bad movie, but as far as I’m concerned it has no relation to 2001. HAL is dead.

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**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/52 "2003-08-31T00:42:51Z")

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This remake is available now, and is comparatively user-friendly;  
(flash movie)  
[http://www.kubrick2001.com/2001.html](http://www.kubrick2001.com/2001.html)

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SF worldbuilding at  
[http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html](http://www.orionsarm.com/main.html)

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/53 "2003-08-31T02:37:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Avumede \*  
> \*\*I refuse to believe that 2001 has a sequel. 2010 is not a bad movie, but as far as I’m concerned it has no relation to 2001. HAL is dead. \*\*

I agree with everything except that “2010 is not a bad movie”. It’s a terrible movie!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/54 "2003-08-31T03:32:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Avumede \*  
> \*\*I refuse to believe that 2001 has a sequel. 2010 is not a bad movie, but as far as I’m concerned it has no relation to 2001. HAL is dead. \*\*

HAL recovers in the 2010 book also, which came first. What Sir Arthur says is the truth!

Slight hijack: I was reading the preface to the millenium edition of 2001 today, and Clarke mentions that he was in NY to meet Kubrick because he was working on “Man in Space” for Time Life books. When the researcher asked him for a source for information in the book, Clarke said “you’re looking at him.” Made things go much faster. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2001-space-odyssey-remake/198048/55 "2003-08-31T15:30:07Z")

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Another film they’re discussing ruining; Forbidden Planet! According to this website [http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/movies/forbidden\_planet\_darabont\_000413.html](http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/movies/forbidden_planet_darabont_000413.html) (pardon the lack of vB) they’re also looking at Barbarella ☹

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