# 2003 Emmmys **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071 "2003-09-22T13:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/21 "2003-09-22T15:52:45Z")
What was weird was his referring to his son Ennis as though he were still alive. But, yeah, the sunglasses were also bizarre. Maybe it was some kind of Jack Nicholson homage? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/22 "2003-09-22T15:52:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Well with Raymond going off the air (Thank God) and FRIENDS going off the air, and Sex in the City going off the air it leaves a little more room for someone different to win an award. But they still have shows running this season, which leaves them eligible next time around. I didn’t like _TWW_ winning again, but with Sorkin gone, I don’t think they will be much of a factor anymore. There were some other real head-scratchers: Tyne Daly? Wayne Brady? I dislike _Raymond_ but can understand that it had been around long enough that it was “due”. Still, I love when Brad Garrett wins–he gives the funniest acceptance speeches (his _Seabiscuit_ line re: Jon Stewart was hilarious). > [@](#): > > But since it is the Emmys, you can be fairly sure that next year the telecast will be worse and all the same people will win their awards again. Well, not Joe Pantoliano, since his character was killed off (and I don’t think anyone’s betting on him returning for _The Handler_). Jon Stewart was the best of the comedy hosts, and Darrell Hammond was the worst. The multiple host thing is always a disaster–too hit & miss, and the tone constantly shifts all over. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/23 "2003-09-22T15:55:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Isn’t it polite manners (such as removing your hat) the fact when you enter into a building? That’s exactly what I was thinking when Damon Wayans came out to present. Ugly hat, too. Maybe Cosby was doing his Ray Charles impression? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/24 "2003-09-22T15:55:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Jon Stewart was the best of the comedy hosts, and Darrell Hammond was the worst. The multiple host thing is always a disaster–too hit & miss, and the tone constantly shifts all over. I liked Martin Short, too. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/25 "2003-09-22T15:57:18Z")
> [@](#): > > I just feel very depressed that I woke up this morning in a world where, yet again, “Everybody Loves Raymond” won awards suggesting that it is a comedy series. As my friend commented last night, “NO! Everybody doesn’t love Raymond! Everybody wants to KILL Raymond!” ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/26 "2003-09-22T16:03:45Z")
I thought Brad Roberts was pretty snarky with his speech and he thanked the producers for not firing his ass for holding out for more money. ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/27 "2003-09-22T16:10:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by twickster \* > \*\*What was weird was his referring to his son Ennis as though he were still alive. \*\* I thought Cosby sounded strange with that too. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/28 "2003-09-22T16:12:15Z")
I enjoyed Conan and Wanda Sykes (she was right in line with what she’s like on her show, loud and obnoxious…and I love the show). Anyways, I think Bill Cosby is losing it. First it was the hypocritical lashing of The Osbourne’s (too long to get into here) and his entire demeanor last night seemed off. ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/29 "2003-09-22T16:16:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > \*\*I thought Brad Roberts was pretty snarky with his speech and he thanked the producers for not firing his ass for holding out for more money. \*\* I think it’s Brad Garrett. ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/30 "2003-09-22T16:18:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*As my friend commented last night, “NO! Everybody doesn’t love Raymond! Everybody wants to KILL Raymond!” \*\* Apparently enough people watch it to justify making Ray Romano the highest paid comedy actor in television. I have no idea where these people are, since everyone I know thinks the same way you do. ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/31 "2003-09-22T16:19:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I think it’s Brad Garrett. \ yes it is. “Brad Roberts” works for my company. \ ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/32 "2003-09-22T16:20:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \* > \*\* Anyways, I think Bill Cosby is losing it. First it was the hypocritical lashing of The Osbourne’s (too long to get into here) and his entire demeanor last night seemed off. \*\* Did you see him afterwards when being interviewed in the press room. Somebody asked from Armed Services Radio/TV asked him to give a shout out to the enlisted that were watching. he went into this diatribe about people in power that was so totally off. It was strange! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/33 "2003-09-22T16:48:51Z")
OK, a much fuller listing of the major network winners (many announced before last night’s program): Six **Door to Door** : TV Movie, Actor, Direction, Writing, Hairstyling, Makeup Five **Everybody Loves Raymond** : Series (Comedy), Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Writing, Sound Mixing Four **The Sopranos** : Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Writing **Will & Grace** : Actress, Guest Actor, Art Direction, Cinematography Three **Hysterical Blindness** : Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Main Title Design **Live from Baghdad** : Casting, Editing, Sound Mixing **Cher: The Farewell Tour** : Variety/Music/Comedy Special, Costumes, Technical Direction **The 75th Annual Academy Awards** : Art Direction, Lighting, Music Direction Two **Alias** : Makeup, Stunts **American Dreams** : Costumes, Hairstyling **American Masters** : Non-fiction series, Sound Mixing **The Daily Show** : Variety/Music/Comedy Series, Writing **Hitler: The Rise of Evil** : Art Direction, Sound Editing **Monk** : Actor, Main Title Music **24** : Editing, Music **The West Wing** : Series (Drama), Direction **Without a Trace** : Guest Actor, Art Direction One **AFI’s 100 Years, 100 Passions** : Editing **The Amazing Race** : Reality/Competition program **American Experience: The Murder of Emmett Till** : Direction **American Experience: Seabiscuit** : Writing **Benjamin Franklin** : Non-fiction special **The Concert for World Children’s Day** : Song **CSI: Crime Scene Investigation** : Sound Editing **CSI: Miami** : Cinematography **Curb Your Enthusiasm** : Direction **Eloise at the Plaza** : Music **ER** : Sound Mixing **Fastlane** : Stunts **The 56th Annual Tony Awards** : Direction **Firefly** : Visual Effects **The 45th Annual Grammy Awards** : Sound Mixing **Frank Herbert’s Children of Dune** : Visual Effects **Frasier** : Editing **Friends** : Guest Actress **Journeys with George** : Editing **Judging Amy** : Supporting Actress **Lincoln Center Theater: Contact** : Classical Music-Dance program **Malcolm in the Middle** : Editing **My House in Umbria** : Actress **Napoleon** : Costumes **Normal** : Makeup **Nova** : Cinematography **Out of the Ashes** : Cinematography **The Practice** : Guest Actress **Primetime Glick** : Makeup **Saturday Night Live** : Technical Direction **The Simpsons** : Animated Program **Sex and the City** : Casting **Six Feet Under** : Casting **Steven Spielberg’s Taken** : Miniseries **Through a Child’s Eyes: September 11, 2001** : Children’s Program **Whose Line Is It Anyway?** : Individual Performance Plus other networks: A&E (_Smucker’s Stars on Ice_), Bravo (_Cirque de Soleil Fire Within_), Discover Channel (_Chased by Dinosaurs_ and _James Cameron’s Expedition: Bismarck_) ---
**Author:** ![peterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bb73d2/32.png) [@peterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peterW)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/34 "2003-09-22T16:49:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jeevmon \* > \*\*Apparently enough people watch it to justify making Ray Romano the highest paid comedy actor in television. I have no idea where these people are, since everyone I know thinks the same way you do. \*\* Let me be the first fan of “Everybody Loves Raymond” to say, “I love Ray and am not ashamed to admit it.” While I’m coming clean, I would also like to mention that I loved “Fast Lane” on FOX, and wish eternal damnation to those whom canceled it. And yes, I am being serious. ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/35 "2003-09-22T16:50:51Z")
I want to see the movies My Home in Umbria and the one I really want to see is Normal (about a father who decides he wants to be a woman) Where can I get these movies? Blockbuster doesn’t have them. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/36 "2003-09-22T17:15:54Z")
I loved seeing Doris Roberts and Tyne Daly win. I’m not a big fan of Everybody Loves Raymond, but I think Doris is a wonderful actress. I knew as soon as I saw the episode Tyne submitted (which dealt with the death of Richard Crenna) that she would win the Emmy. I remember thinking at the time that it would be painful to win an award primarily because your acting partner died, but I thought she handled it with elegance and class. That said, I was appalled by the crass jokes made about these two lovely ladies by Brad Garrett and Damon Wayans. Yes, we know you’re young and hip, and it’s fun to crack wise about women who don’t meet the Hollywood standard of youth and sex appeal, but show a little respect! Those women have paid their dues and they deserve it. Elsewhere, the hosting job for 2004 is Jon Stewart’s if he wants it. And William H. Macy is adorable. **Isabelle** - Normal will be released on video on October 7, and My House in Umbria will be released November 25. They should be available at Blockbuster shortly after those dates. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/37 "2003-09-22T17:17:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kka \* > \*\*Did you see him afterwards when being interviewed in the press room. Somebody asked from Armed Services Radio/TV asked him to give a shout out to the enlisted that were watching. he went into this diatribe about people in power that was so totally off. It was strange! \*\* Wow, I missed that. I wonder what’s going on with him… ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/38 "2003-09-22T17:29:20Z")
Who won for guest actors and actresses? I see Will and Grace won for best male guest. Was it Harry Connick Jr? ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/39 "2003-09-22T17:32:24Z")
Guest Actress was Christina Applegate. She didn’t look very good last night. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/40 "2003-09-22T17:49:46Z")
Guest Actor (Comedy) was Gene Wilder as Will’s boss. Sadly, Will’s old boss, Gregory Hines, was among the actors featured in the memorial segment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071.md?page=3)