# 2003 Emmmys **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071 "2003-09-22T13:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/41 "2003-09-22T18:05:50Z")
The extra m is for monotony!!! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/42 "2003-09-22T18:27:25Z")
**Six Feet Under** only gets an Emmy for _casting_? Are they kidding with this? This is one of the best dark comedies to ever hit the screen and it loses out to the likes of West Wing? And **Raymond** monotones his way past **Curb**. A hack comedian who hasn’t been funny in at least ten years beats out an outrageously funny/annoying program with some actual thought put into it. **Sopranos** deserved to lose. This last season was a shadow of its former self. The plot line was hazy and badly disjointed, and the actors didn’t seem to care. “Raymond”? Really? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/43 "2003-09-22T18:38:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 5-HT \* > \*\*The extra m is for monotony!!! \*\* Not everyone had the perspicacity to realize that wasn’t a typo. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/44 "2003-09-22T18:59:52Z")
**The Amazing Race** was up against not only **Survivor** and **American Idol** , but also against the Bob Hope 100th birthday special and some AFI special. Huh? Never could figure that one out. Anyway, I was sure the nostalgia factor would win over common sense, so am thrilled TAR won the Emmy. CBS has NOT given the green light to actually run the race or order the program, however. They have ONLY given the green light so far to casting it. There’s still no guarantees it will be on again. Although how they could justify their show winning the Emmy and then being cancelled boggles the mind. (I hasten to add that I would not be surprised if they find a way to do it, however, being a true cynic!) ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/45 "2003-09-22T19:19:31Z")
I thought the broadcast was horrible. Jokes were unfunny - the Schwarzenegger and Rumsfield routines were just painful to watch and you could see the audience was straining to smile. The endless promos “stay tuned for the John Ritter tribute” that they hyped over and over and over was longer than the actual tribute lasted. And it was sob city last night…geez…Tony Shalub, Walter Cronkite, Wayne Brady…felt like I was at a wake. All that was missing was wheeling out Christopher Reeve with sparklers ablaze on his wheelchair with the Mormon Tabernacle Chorus singing Ring of Fire in the background. Sadly, the only time I laughed out loud during the entire broadcast was during that great Verizon commercial, “Romeo and Juliet”. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/46 "2003-09-22T19:53:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DMark \* > \*\* All that was missing was wheeling out Christopher Reeve with sparklers ablaze on his wheelchair with the Mormon Tabernacle Chorus singing Ring of Fire in the background. > > \*\* ROFL! I’m sure John Ritter was talented, and sorely missed by those who knew him. But geez…“legend”? C’mon. One forgettable sit-com 20 years ago, plus one that was hanging by a thread currently, does not a legend make. When Walter Cronkite was leading up to his acknowledgement of Bob Hope, with mention of his warehouse of awards and 50 years of service, I wise-cracked that it was another John Ritter nod. ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/47 "2003-09-22T19:57:29Z")
I would not go so far as to say Ritter was a “legend” but I would say he was an “icon” Yeah his sitcom was 20 years ago but he played a role of being gay when gay wasn’t the “in thing” Now every character in a sitcom is gay. But someone had to lead the way. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/48 "2003-09-22T22:14:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > \*\*I would not go so far as to say Ritter was a “legend” but I would say he was an “icon” Yeah his sitcom was 20 years ago but he played a role of being gay when gay wasn’t the “in thing” Now every character in a sitcom is gay. But someone had to lead the way. \*\* Er…it wasn’t a ‘gay’ role. He played a straight guy who _pretended_ to be gay. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/49 "2003-09-22T22:17:29Z")
Ritter’s character Jack wasn’t gay. Jack just told Mr. Furley that so he’d let him live with the two women. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/50 "2003-09-22T23:09:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > **I would have like to see Peter Krausen of 6 ft under win. He has been nominated 3x and he does a good job.** Strangely, (as it was the only part of emmy coverage I caught), while he is willing to get up and dance in the aisles, he doesn’t know the electric slide. Did the “8 million hosts” idea work? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/51 "2003-09-22T23:18:04Z")
> [@](#): > > he doesn’t know the electric slide IMHO, this is a point in his favor. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/52 "2003-09-22T23:20:42Z")
Depends on your point of view, of course. From mine: everytime they changed hosts, it was another comic who had been guaranteed a 2-minute monologue. Some were funny, some (most) weren’t. But by having one host, they could’ve cut 30 minutes off the run time, easily. ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/53 "2003-09-23T04:27:41Z")
John Stewart should have hosted the show. Ellen was funny. Wanda Sykes “ya’ dumb basterd” schtick is not really good on an awards show, and I think George Lopez is usually funny, but that crowd looked miserable with him up there. Darrell Hammond can kiss any sitcom deal he may have eyed after SNL goodbye. I don’t get the whole “Everybody Loves Raymond” thing, but I suppose it is the one half decent traditional sitcom left, and people want to keep that tradition. But the funny thing to me was all the pre-show hooplah over Matt LeBlanc’s spinoff. To me it smacks of charity. Bill Cosby’s a bit nutty these days (I recall his odd behavior hosting Letterman earlier this year), but it is completely understandable that any father would like to think his deceased son is still a presence in his life. ---
**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/54 "2003-09-23T04:34:41Z")
How did Bill act on Letterman? ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/55 "2003-09-23T11:35:14Z")
I enjoyed Shandling. Wish he’d hosted the whole show. What was Damon Wayans thinking with that outrageous joke at Doris Roberts’ expense? The audience reaction was stong enough even he must have realized it wasn’t funny. But why couldn’t he have seen that to begin with? What a jerk! Wanda Sykes was irritating as hell. I won’t be watching her upcoming show. Cosby is so full of himself I almost expected to see his skin split and watch him molt right in his seat. He stopped being funny a long time ago. I may be the only one (at least in this forum) who thinks so, but I was delighted that the West Wing won for best drama. I’ve never seen a better drama on television. IMO the cast is superb, and up to now the writing has been brilliant. I will wait and see whether the standard is lived up to with Sorkin gone. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2003, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/56 "2003-09-23T14:16:11Z")
Also in my “Really Bad” category (Sorry, I forgot this yesterday): Jane Kaczmarek’s hideous earrings!!! Lots of the ladies were wearing those lobe stretching chandelier earrings, but hers were the worst, by far! ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/57 "2003-09-24T21:18:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duderdude2 \* > \*\*How did Bill act on Letterman? \*\* I never saw it, but he’s been acting incredibly self-important for years. ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/58 "2003-09-25T13:11:18Z")
Did I miss it or did no one mention the “passionate” kiss \ with Brad Garret and Gary Shandling? Was anyone amused? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/59 "2003-09-25T14:08:35Z")
Didn’t mention it – seemed too obvious and deriviative a joke. Of course, we’ve critiqued a bunch of the other obvious and derivative jokes… BTW: **kka** – I’ve been searching for years for someone who shares my loathing of M. Cosby. Shall we swear eternal friendship? ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071/60 "2003-09-25T14:17:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DMark \* > **All that was missing was wheeling out Christopher Reeve with sparklers ablaze on his wheelchair with the Mormon Tabernacle Chorus singing Ring of Fire in the background.** I may have found my first ever SDMB sig quote. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2003-emmmys/203071.md?page=4)