# 2004 and you still can't get non-white and non-black couples on wedding cards **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 7, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2004-and-you-still-cant-get-non-white-and-non-black-couples-on-wedding-cards/268075 "2004-10-07T19:09:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2004-and-you-still-cant-get-non-white-and-non-black-couples-on-wedding-cards/268075/41 "2004-10-13T15:52:29Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > There’s a detective show set in Hawaii that has an all-white cast. Freaking HAWAII! “Then there was _Kung Fu_, with David Carradine, who was not Chinese. So they shouldn’t have called it _Kung Fu_; they should have called it _Hey, That Guy’s Not Chinese._” - Margaret Cho ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2004-and-you-still-cant-get-non-white-and-non-black-couples-on-wedding-cards/268075/42 "2004-10-13T15:55:16Z")
That was me, sorry. I don’t really mind that the big companies don’t sell cards with gay couples on it; it gives me another reason to support my local gay-owned business. And **StarvingButStrong** is correct. A blank card with a handwritten message exceeds all forms of hallmarkery in the Etiquette Sweepstakes. (A lady at the church I went to used to sell little white cards with flowers _embroidered_ onto the front… like, with actual thread… and with blank insides. Blew anything I could have bought at the store right out of the water.) ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2004-and-you-still-cant-get-non-white-and-non-black-couples-on-wedding-cards/268075/43 "2004-10-13T16:12:45Z")
I find it more offensive that people are incapable of using the internet or going to an ethnic store to find what they want. Maybe that’s just because I’m paid to find obscure stuff… But to continue the hijack… > [@](#): > > And then a hot black person of the opposite sex shows up for a guest appearance, and _surprise_ it’s automatically a love interest storyline for the token black person. Not on every show. On Xena, many of the couples were interracial - black/white or Asian/white. **Five** black/white couples featured prominently. And they got _hate mail_. Piles of it. :smack: And when I recounted this story to one of my goth friends in grad school, she agreed with the letter-writers. It was okay for the main couple to be gay, but mixing the races was bad, bad, bad! :mad: If a ridiculously-premised syndicated TV program can create that kind of backlash, no wonder the major networks who actually have people watching are more cautious, and the greeting card companies are more conservative. Nothing says family values like the Hallmark Channel, for crying out loud. I do admire CSI(s) for looking at the actual demographic of their location city, and trying to represent the ethnicities there, instead of a national token demographic. CSI: Miami has an actual Southerner and plenty of Hispanics (er, well, it did). CSI: New York has Italians. Maybe eventually we’ll have an Asian person other than B.D. Wong to watch. “When I grow up, I want to be an extra on M.A.S.H. Or maybe I can play a hooker in something!” - _Margaret Cho_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2004-and-you-still-cant-get-non-white-and-non-black-couples-on-wedding-cards/268075.md?page=2)