# 2008 Presidential Candidate Matcher

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 20, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219 "2007-08-20T04:53:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/21 "2007-08-20T13:27:38Z")

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Kucinich 61  
Romney -61

Obama came in third at 28. Paul was the highest Republican at 25, which put him 6th.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/22 "2007-08-20T13:50:27Z")

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Kucinich 76, Gravel 59 but no disagreements, Obama 49, Clinton 40, Edwards 39.  
Hunter -76, Tancredo -67, Romney -61, Huckabee -54, Guiliani -31  
Not too far off. My personal preference order is Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Obama, Clinton.

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**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/23 "2007-08-20T14:11:12Z")

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I came out with Kucinich on top, followed by Gravel, and then Obama. I did have a perfect split between the Democratic candidates and the Republicans (the only Republican who even scored in the positive range was Ron Paul).

I feel like the test is slightly biased, though. If there had been a “support FairTax” question on there, I would’ve disagreed as strongly as possible, and that would’ve shown up against Gravel. Similarly with “establishing a Department of Peace” and Kucinich. Basically, several of the issues that _a priori_ make me discount the candidacies of Kucinich and Gravel weren’t on the list.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/24 "2007-08-20T14:19:42Z")

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Top:

Kucinich 48  
Gravel 42  
Obama 33  
Edawards/Clinton 32

Bottom:

Tancredo -41  
Hunter -47  
Romney -48

No real surprises at the top. Although I think Obama or Clinton would be the best choices. At bottom, I’m surprised to see Romney so low. I hate him, but it’s mostly because he was a pretty poor governor. I thought he’d be running closer to the top of the Republicans if measured by issues alone (Paul, with 15, is my top Republican, btw).

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/25 "2007-08-20T14:31:05Z")

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Top 5:

Kucinich 41  
Gravel 36  
Obama 28\*  
Clinton 27\*  
Edwards 26\*

\*Interesting that these three all seem to blend together for me anyway, so a 2 point spread is not that surprising, I suppose.  
Bottom 5:  
Brownback -29  
Tancredo -35  
Huckabee -36  
Romney -40  
Hunter -43

Guess I have a definite Democratic lean going there…

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/26 "2007-08-20T14:32:59Z")

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Kucinich 67, Gravel 60, Obama 31.

Kucinich and Gravel are kind of crazy, but I do kind of like Obama.  
Tancredo -56  
Romney -62  
Hunter -64  
Highest Republican other than Ron Paul (who wants to eliminate half of all federal agencies, it seems like), is Thompson at -17.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/27 "2007-08-20T15:12:04Z")

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I think this test is deliberately biased towards Kucinich. If you go to the source page from the test, there is a Kucinich for president add at the top.

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**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/28 "2007-08-20T15:15:28Z")

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My results were a bit weird:

Highest:

McCain 17  
Gravel 16  
Paul 13  
Giuliani 13  
Brownback 10  
Thompson 5

Gravel in with a bunch of Republicans. I disagreed with very few issues of his, but I guess I didn’t rate the things I agreed with on him very high.

Lowest:

Clinton -19  
Romney -19

Hillary and Mitt tied. Wouldn’t have expected that. No one scored very high for me (or very low, for that matter) though. Guess it was all the “mehs” I put down for importance. I don’t particularly care about half the issues (Iraq and Iran in particular).

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/29 "2007-08-20T15:23:46Z")

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Given a) I live in the UK and b) I put ‘meh’ a lot as most issues affect the US, I got:

Kuchinich 49 (no disagreements)  
Hunter -45

Which candidates support torture? :smack:

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/30 "2007-08-20T15:58:57Z")

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Strange poll with an odd collection of questions:  
Kucinich 44 Net Neutrality

Clinton 34 Patriot Act, Net Neutrality, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Edwards 32 Patriot Act, Net Neutrality, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

**Gravel 31 (you have no disagreements with this candidate)**  
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Giuliani -15

Who the heck is Gravel?

Interesting how the candidate I am currently planning to vote for is a -15. Of course his stand on torture and the Patriot act means I might jump ship to the Dem candidate at this rate. I think he needs some clarifying statements.

Of course, if Bloomberg runs, I drop Rudy instantly.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/31 "2007-08-20T15:59:29Z")

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If I support “Embryonic Stem Cells” what does that mean? Support research using them or support protecting them from research that destroys them?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/32 "2007-08-20T16:06:51Z")

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Kucinich 55  
Gravel 52  
Dodd 26  
Obama 24  
Clinton 21  
Biden 21  
Edwards 21  
Richardson 16  
Paul 15

Thompson -11  
Giuliani -23  
Cox -23  
McCain -25  
Brownback -28  
Tancredo -44  
Romney -53  
Huckabee -56  
Hunter -62  
Apparently I’m some kind of Lefty. I did not know that.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/33 "2007-08-20T16:16:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Apparently I’m some kind of Lefty. I did not know that.  
[/QUOTE]

I’m telling you, this “test” had to have been designed by a Kucinich supporter. Go to the original issues page [here](http://www.2decide.com/table.htm), and you’ll see that he’s the only candidate who doesn’t have any “unknowns” or “other” rating on any of the issues. Also, note the Kucinich ad at the top.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/34 "2007-08-20T16:21:37Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
I’m telling you, this “test” had to have been designed by a Kucinich supporter. Go to the original issues page [here](http://www.2decide.com/table.htm), and you’ll see that he’s the only candidate who doesn’t have any “unknowns” or “other” rating on any of the issues. Also, note the Kucinich ad at the top.  
[/QUOTE]  
Yep, you’re probably right.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/35 "2007-08-20T16:39:12Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
I’m telling you, this “test” had to have been designed by a Kucinich supporter.  
[/QUOTE]

This theory requires that Kucinich supporters exist.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/36 "2007-08-20T16:47:55Z")

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I can say I’m fully in support of the city of Kyoto. I definitely want it to continue to exist.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/37 "2007-08-20T16:53:33Z")

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Do I support or oppose embryonic stem cells? I strongly support them! Without embryonic stem cells none of us would exist.

I also support Kyoto. I’ve never been there, but I’m sure most of its citizens are decent people and I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to them.

ETA: Beaten by **Panamajack.**

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/38 "2007-08-20T17:06:57Z")

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I came out with "Polls belong in **IMHO** at 99  
and Polls should be permitted in **GD** at -93.

Off to **IMHO**.

[/Moderating]

(I was surprised that Romney scored lower than Tancredo, but the test is not sufficiently real to go back and see where Romney lost more points from me.)

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**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/39 "2007-08-20T17:11:19Z")

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I was confused by the embryonic stem cells question, too. I support research on them, and I chose ‘support’, and since Kucinich et al didn’t disagree with me, I assume my interpretation was the correct one. Here are my results:

Kucinich 69  
Gravel 54  
Obama 40  
Clinton 37  
Biden 37  
Edwards 36  
Dodd 36  
Richardson 29  
Paul 16  
McCain -10  
Cox -21  
Thompson -21  
Giuliani -24  
Brownback -36  
Huckabee -45  
Romney -59  
Tancredo -62  
Hunter -68

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/40 "2007-08-20T17:16:57Z")

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Who the hell is Tom Tancredo? Apparently he’s my candidate of choice, followed by Fred Thompson. There’s no mention of taxes in the quiz either, which I found odd.

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