# 2008 Presidential Candidate Matcher

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 20, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219 "2007-08-20T04:53:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/41 "2007-08-20T17:32:45Z")

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Who the heck are these people? “Gravel”? “Paul”? I’m surprised McCain is so low, but then I remember his support for Iraq and that clears it up.

Gravel 20  
Richardson 17  
Kucinich 14  
Paul 14  
Edwards 8  
Clinton 4  
Biden 3  
Dodd 2  
Obama 1  
Thompson -1  
McCain -2  
Brownback -7  
Huckabee -13  
Hunter -14  
Tancredo -15  
Giuliani -17  
Cox -22  
Romney -26

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/42 "2007-08-20T17:44:26Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
Who the hell is Tom Tancredo?  
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He’s a Republican member of the House (R-CO?) who is basically a one-trick pony, that pony being anti-illegal immigration. He’s really, really, REALLY anti-illegal immigration.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/43 "2007-08-20T18:26:02Z")

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Tancredo is also the guy who acted like having a bilingual country was right up there with devil worship.

He’s a nut.

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/44 "2007-08-20T18:41:51Z")

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Top:  
Clinton 22  
Dodd 21  
Biden and Obama 18

Bottom:  
Huckabee -11  
Brownback -13  
Cox -14

I need to do more research. Too many of my issues were left at ‘meh’ and some I had to Wiki real quick.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/45 "2007-08-20T18:45:59Z")

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I got 20 for Ron Paul, for whom I’d never vote. Nobody else got more than 10.

I’m leaning toward Huckabee.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/46 "2007-08-20T19:51:17Z")

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[QUOTE=MilTan]  
I feel like the test is slightly biased, though. If there had been a “support FairTax” question on there, I would’ve disagreed as strongly as possible, and that would’ve shown up against Gravel. Similarly with “establishing a Department of Peace” and Kucinich. Basically, several of the issues that _a priori_ make me discount the candidacies of Kucinich and Gravel weren’t on the list.  
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Same here (I had Kucinich first, Gravel second, 4 way tie between Clinton, Obama, Richardson, and Edwards).

I also thought some of the questions were poorly worded or unclear (Embryonic Stem Cells, what about them?) redundant, or did not fit easily into “support” or “oppose” so, I had a number of "Other"s at “Meh” level.

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/47 "2007-08-20T19:56:56Z")

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Obama -16

Closest other was 13.

Wow…didn’t know.

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/48 "2007-08-20T20:04:49Z")

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Just had a friend take it…and he had scores in the 40-70’s

This supports my gut now…in that no candidate really represents me.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/49 "2007-08-20T21:24:07Z")

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Top three:

Kucinich 64  
No Child Left Behind  
Gravel 53  
(you have no disagreements with this candidate)  
Edwards 40  
No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Bottom three:

Tancredo -54  
Romney -57  
Hunter -63

To be honest, no one really thrills me right now, though. I got Kucinich at the top last time I took one of these, last election time, and it was from a Democrat-weighted site, though not a Kucinich one. I’d heard of everyone but Gravel before, I think.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/50 "2007-08-20T21:44:52Z")

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Top 4:

Kucinich 89  
No Child Left Behind, Assault Weapons Ban

Gravel 78 😕  
(you have no disagreements with this candidate)

Obama 50  
Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Marriage

Clinton 49  
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Bottom 4:

Huckabee -59  
Tancredo -77  
Hunter -87  
Romney -89

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**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/51 "2007-08-20T21:49:49Z")

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**Kucinich 53**  
Gravel 46  
Obama 39  
Clinton 31  
Edwards 30  
Biden 28  
Dodd 26  
Richardson 25  
Paul 6

Giuliani -13  
Thompson -21  
McCain -24  
Cox -27  
Huckabee -30  
Brownback -32  
Tancredo -42  
Hunter -45  
**Romney -47**

I’d support Kucinich if he had a chance. I think I’d be happy with Obama or Clinton.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/52 "2007-08-20T22:04:27Z")

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[QUOTE=]  
Kucinich 77  
No Child Left Behind, Border Fence

Gravel 69  
Border Fence

Obama 45  
Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Marriage

Clinton 43  
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Dodd 41  
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action

Edwards 40  
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Biden 39  
Death Penalty, No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Iran Sanctions, Same-Sex Marriage

Richardson 34  
Death Penalty, Assault Weapons Ban, Patriot Act, Border Fence, Iran Sanctions, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Paul 24  
Abortion Rights, Embryonic Stem Cells, Kyoto, Assault Weapons Ban, Guns - Background Checks, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Net Neutrality, Minimum Wage Increase, Same-Sex Marriage, Universal Healthcare

Thompson -18  
McCain -20  
Giuliani -27  
Brownback -35  
Cox -35  
Huckabee -54  
Tancredo -65  
Romney -72  
Hunter -74  
[/QUOTE]

Odd since I don’t know who Gravel is and like Clinton better than Obama.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/53 "2007-08-20T22:52:17Z")

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Thompson 31  
Kyoto

McCain 27  
Kyoto, Guantanamo, Torture, Citizenship Path for Illegals, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage

Romney 27  
Embryonic Stem Cells, Kyoto, Iran - Military Action, Same-Sex Marriage, Same-Sex Civil Union, Same-Sex Constitutional Ban

Giuliani 26  
Hunter 24  
Tancredo 15  
Huckabee 12  
Cox 10  
Paul 5  
Brownback -1  
Dodd -7  
Biden -8  
Clinton -12  
Obama -13  
Edwards -18  
Richardson -21  
Kucinich -26  
Gravel -27

The top three are correct, but it’s actually Romney/Thompson/McCain. I like how Romney lost so many points because same-sex marriage gets 3 questions and taxes aren’t even on the quiz.

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**Author:** ![Julius\_Henry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@Julius\_Henry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Julius_Henry)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/54 "2007-08-20T22:53:07Z")

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My top choice is Kucinich with 45.  
Bottom choice is Romney with -44.

This poll is clearly favoring Kucinich. I can’t believe there are this many Kucinich supporters even on this board.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/55 "2007-08-20T22:59:04Z")

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My top was Richardson at 21.  
Bottom was Brownback at -21.

My politics don’t match much with the standard left/right split on issues (nor authoritarian/liberalist)

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/56 "2007-08-20T23:16:04Z")

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I just redid the test and got similar results as before

Paul 31  
Kucinich 30  
Gravel 27  
Richardson, Biden, Obama, etc.

I really like Paul so his top position doesn’t surprise me at all, but all of the Democratic candidates are somewhat distasteful to me, so I don’t know why Kucinich (probably the most radical of the Democrats) is rated so highly.

I’m gonna guess at inherent bias as well.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/57 "2007-08-21T00:27:14Z")

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This is an obvious attempt to get democratic voters to vote for Kucinich in the primaries. The top two choices of every single SDMB liberal are Kucinich and Gravel? I don’t think so.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/58 "2007-08-21T17:00:57Z")

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Kucinich 49  
Gravel 39  
Obama 29

Romney -42  
Tancredo -42  
Huter -44

With 14, Paul was the only ® with a positive number

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/59 "2007-08-21T22:57:26Z")

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I didn’t know who “Cox” was, so I Googled and found [this article,](http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/642dsifq.asp?pg=1) which explains why I hadn’t heard of him – he hasn’t been invited to the ongoing string of “debates”, even though he’s won a straw poll!

As for my results, the top four matches were:

McCain 14  
Paul 10 (and I actually voted for him in the '88 presidential election, when he ran under the Libertarian banner)  
Thompson 10  
Kucinich 5 (when I lived in suburban Cleveland, I voted for him during several of his Congressional races)

Bringing up the rear:

Huckabee -8  
Brownback -8  
Tancredo -7  
Hunter -7

Biggest surprise was that I actually got a +1 for Hillary, who’d be my eighteenth choice if I ranked these hopefuls from top to bottom on a weighted ballot.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-candidate-matcher/416219/60 "2007-08-22T02:36:05Z")

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I think basically, this thing is pretty much trying to convince me not to vote this election. 14% was the **highest** I got, and that’s not very inspiring.

Romney 14  
Hunter 13  
Thompson 9  
Tancredo 9  
Huckabee 8  
McCain 7  
Brownback 6  
Paul 5  
Cox 3  
Giuliani 1  
Clinton -3  
Richardson -3  
Edwards -3  
Biden -3  
Dodd -3  
Obama -7  
Kucinich -9  
Gravel -13

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