# 2008 Presidential Election Results Thread. See it here as they come in.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 4, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031 "2008-11-04T12:25:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/141 "2008-11-05T00:52:30Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Vermont’s already been called for Obama; polls in the other two are still open.

VT is not on the MSNBC map(?)

**JMan** –I am too. It’s not going the way I thought it would. I sat and watched Kerry. I don’t think I can go through that again…

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/142 "2008-11-05T00:53:00Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> The map at dailykos ([http://scoreboard.dailykos.com/map/](http://scoreboard.dailykos.com/map/)) doesn’t seem to work for me anymore. It was a few minutes ago…☹

Me too. The map comes up but the states are no longer “rolloverable”.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/143 "2008-11-05T00:53:04Z")

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> [@ladybug](#):
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> It was the early release of the numbers that surprised me, too. I just didn’t word it very well.
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> CNN shows McCain leading in Florida, 54 percent to 46 percent. I’m hoping that Palm Beach County hasn’t been counted yet (Obama is very popular around here).

Early results don’t really tell you a lot unless they’re sampling from all the polls, which of course they aren’t.

If you started off in North Carolina reporting from polls in urban Raleigh-Durham, you’d conclude Obama was going to crush McCain; if you started off in rural areas, you’d conclude the reverse. States have radical differences from county to county - Virginia being a great example, with the north being heavily blue and the south and west being red. Right now they have OBama leading South Carolina 57-43, which is just totally impossible - the polls can’t be twenty to thirty points off. So you can dismiss that out of hand.

Also, the results I’m seeing **don’t include early voting** , which could be substantially different from election-day voting.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/144 "2008-11-05T00:53:27Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Anyone else extremely nervous?

and more than a little worried. I’m making myself sick.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/145 "2008-11-05T00:54:04Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> VT is not on the MSNBC map(?)

[Keith Olbermann] I’ll be in the cold, cold, cold ground before I ever recognize Vermont![/KO] 😉

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/146 "2008-11-05T00:54:05Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Anyone else extremely nervous?

_raises hand_

This trickling-in of results is killing me. I kind of want to just have the next four hours or so fast forward…

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/147 "2008-11-05T00:54:08Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> VT is not on the MSNBC map(?)

Oh. Next to the northeast edge of New York.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/148 "2008-11-05T00:55:11Z")

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Fox has Oklahoma going for McCain.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/149 "2008-11-05T00:56:05Z")

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When do the early voting results get included? (I know that sentence is probably horribly ungrammatical, but I’m having a mild freak-out right now, so GET OFF MY BACK, MAN.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/150 "2008-11-05T00:57:47Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Fox has flopped FL back to McCain, but McCains early leads in Southern states is being chipped away.

CNN still shows Obama ahead after 11% precincts reported.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/151 "2008-11-05T00:58:22Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Anyone else extremely nervous?

ARGH!

I mean, a little.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/152 "2008-11-05T00:58:24Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Me too. The map comes up but the states are no longer “rolloverable”.

maps working again. From a cursory county by county rollover, Virginia is going to McCain, but…those Northern VA counties like Fairfax, Landover, Frederick, etc are going to be pretty huge.

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**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/153 "2008-11-05T00:58:42Z")

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They are calling SC for McCain even though the numbers are pretty strong for Obama?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/154 "2008-11-05T00:59:42Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Fox has Oklahoma going for McCain.

I called Oklahoma for the Republican candidate in 2005. 🙂

If you absolutely must have some good news for Obama, Indiana looks promising. As of 1957 EST McCain is up by just 2 points but Marion County (Indianapolis) is only 16% in, and none of the Gary-area counties are in, and I would think those will skew Democrat. This is a must-win for McCain, but not for Obama, so even being close here is good news for him.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/155 "2008-11-05T01:00:02Z")

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Another thing to keep in mind about these results is that anyone in line at poll closing time gets to vote, even if it takes hours. We’re gonna see late returns from a lot of places.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
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Obama wins PA!!!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/157 "2008-11-05T01:00:32Z")

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Go Penn! GO!

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/158 "2008-11-05T01:00:38Z")

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PENNSYLVANIA FOR OBAMA per MSNBC!!!

AND New Hampshire!!!

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2008-presidential-election-results-thread-see-it-here-as-they-come-in/471031/159 "2008-11-05T01:00:41Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Oh. Next to the northeast edge of New York.

Is that a snipe at me? I know where VT is–I don’t see it blue on the MSNBC map. But I see Kos has made NH and VT blue, so that’s good.  
I am getting more and more anxious–for all these weeks of good news re Obama, I am no longer sure we are winning this. I know this is the whole idea of TV–heighte the drama etc, but it’s killing me. I’d give anything for something to do besides this, but I can’t look away, either. I wish I had something to knit.

PA to Obama! Maybe. (not taking anything for granted).

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
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> [@mabes10](#):
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> CNN just said 2 small rural counties so far.

If VA is 43% - 57% with two small rural counties reporting, I guess that’s good news.

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