# 2009 NFL Draft Day Conversation **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 25, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336 "2009-04-25T19:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/81 "2009-04-25T21:05:59Z")
Jaguars pick OT Eugene Monroe. Now I don’t care who the Packers pick, the 49ers can pick either Crabtree or Raji and I would be ecstatic. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/82 "2009-04-25T21:06:28Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Alrighty, Jacksonville needs to grab Crabtree, which would make Monroe the perfect pick for the Packers. I’ll be furious of they don’t pick Monroe if he’s available. Tee hee, tee hee. Thanks Jags! ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/83 "2009-04-25T21:07:13Z")
As a Raiders fan, I say, WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY And to think I was starting to have faith in Al Davis again. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/84 "2009-04-25T21:07:27Z")
Is Ratliff clearly developmental or does he have a shot at competing to start? He could be backup if the trade Anderson or a project third QB (replacing the mighty Ken Dorsey). Some OSU/Browns fans were demanding Beanie at #5 (there are always calls for every pick to be an OSU player) - I wouldn’t hate him at #17. Rey scares me, but the idea of an enforcing thumper up the middle appeals to me. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/85 "2009-04-25T21:08:05Z")
DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!! Well, it was too good to be true! Hopefully the Packers will get a trade offer for moving up for Crabtree or Raji or Oher. Unfortunately, the Packers are solid, if not spectacular, at WR, so Crabtree isn’t a need. But TT is a BPA selector who drafted Aaron Rodgers to sit behind Favre, so anything is possible. I’m all agog! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/86 "2009-04-25T21:08:14Z")
Lions can take Crabtree at 20 . They need a wide receiver. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/87 "2009-04-25T21:08:32Z")
I like Mauauauauaualaga at 17. Don’t forget, Ray Lewis was a late first round pick himself. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/88 "2009-04-25T21:10:04Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Jaguars pick OT Eugene Monroe. > > Now I don’t care who the Packers pick, the 49ers can pick either Crabtree or Raji and I would be ecstatic. Looks like PAckers got Raji! Good for them. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/89 "2009-04-25T21:10:09Z")
Packers pick NT B.J. Raji. This is the second time in recent years that the Packers have taken my favorite pick with the pick right before the 49ers. Before it was LB A.J. Hawk. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/90 "2009-04-25T21:10:54Z")
Here’s a peek at Mel’s last Mock Draft’s top 10. > [@](#): > > 1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia > > 2. St. Louis Rams: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor > > 3. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU > > 4. Seattle Seahawks: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest > > 5. Cleveland Browns: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC > > 6. Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama > > 7. Oakland Raiders: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia > > 8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech > > 9. Green Bay Packers: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College > > 10. San Francisco 49ers: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri He was damned accurate. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/91 "2009-04-25T21:13:32Z")
How could the 49ers possibly pass on Crabtree? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/92 "2009-04-25T21:14:53Z")
Matt Forte, Jay Cutler, I’d like you to meet BJ Raji!!! Wooooooooooooooo!!! ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/93 "2009-04-25T21:16:14Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Is Ratliff clearly developmental or does he have a shot at competing to start? He could be backup if the trade Anderson or a project third QB (replacing the mighty Ken Dorsey). Not sure what to make of Ratliff, but being that Mangini coached him you have to imagine that he likes him to ask for him in the trade. If he was comfortable with a competition between Quinn and Anderson getting Ratliff would make little sense. Though I suppose having him as the 3rd guy and promoting him later might make sense, but that precludes them from drafting a late round guy in hopes of getting lucky. > [@](#): > > Some OSU/Browns fans were demanding Beanie at #5 (there are always calls for every pick to be an OSU player) - I wouldn’t hate him at #17. Rey scares me, but the idea of an enforcing thumper up the middle appeals to me. Wells was always a disappointment in college. He’ll be a bust that high and it’s never wise to take a RB early. If I’m the Browns I’m hoping Maclin falls or maybe Peria Jerry/Orakpo/Maybin at 17. > [@Hamlet](#): > > Looks like PAckers got Raji! Good for them. Damn. The Pack did the right thing, that sucks. Raji is gonna be good. Crabtree to San Fran seems like an automatic. Jerry would make sense too, Singletary knows how important a strong D-Line is for LBs. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/94 "2009-04-25T21:17:26Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Matt Forte, Jay Cutler, I’d like you to meet BJ Raji!!! > > Wooooooooooooooo!!! Great pick, I agree. Like I said, if you include Aaron Rodgers, I could easily root for the Packers based on who I wanted the 49ers to draft lately. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/95 "2009-04-25T21:19:32Z")
I see Michael Crabtree smiling. I’m smiling… ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/96 "2009-04-25T21:20:28Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Not sure what to make of Ratliff, but being that Mangini coached him you have to imagine that he likes him to ask for him in the trade. If he was comfortable with a competition between Quinn and Anderson getting Ratliff would make little sense. Though I suppose having him as the 3rd guy and promoting him later might make sense, but that precludes them from drafting a late round guy in hopes of getting lucky. I suspect that latter is exactly the idea. Ratliff is more of a 2010, 2011 prospect. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/97 "2009-04-25T21:21:27Z")
49ers pick WR Michael Crabtree. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/98 "2009-04-25T21:24:32Z")
> [@furt](#): > > I suspect that latter is exactly the idea. Ratliff is more of a 2010, 2011 prospect. Makes sense, but at the end of this year Anderson/Quinn will have less value in trade. If one guy steps up (or flops terribly) this year he’s not getting anything for the guy they want to dump. If they are sour on Quinn now’s the time to move him or else you won’t get a thing for him. That said, I think Quinn would win the job if given the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/99 "2009-04-25T21:26:14Z")
Now it is up to the Bills to begin the run on overrated college DE projecting as OLBs in the NFL _cough_ Gholston _cough_. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336/100 "2009-04-25T21:26:57Z")
If the Bills take Maybin I’ll be surprised. Oher would be a better fit and a bigger need. Yup, Maybin…they will regret that one. Denver is on the clock. Any chance they replace Cutler with Freeman? Or do they do the smart thing and go defense all day long. Orakpo here and Jerry later would be a good start. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nfl-draft-day-conversation/494336.md?page=6)