# 2009 NHL Trade Deadline

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293 "2009-03-04T17:41:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/1 "2009-03-04T17:41:47Z")

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You know spring is almost here when it’s deadline day.

Summary of today’s trades:  
[ul]  
[li]Antoine Vermette to **Columbus** - Pascal Leclaire and a 2009 2nd Round Pick to **Ottawa** [/li][li]Jordon Leopold to **Calgary** - Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson, and a 2009 2nd Round Pick to **Colorado** [/li][li]Andy Wozniewski to\*\* Pittsburgh\*\* - Danny Richmond to **St. Louis** [/li][li]Mikael Tellqvist to **Buffalo** - 4th Round Pick to **Phoenix** [/li][li]Petteri Nokelainen to **Anaheim** - Steve Montador to **Boston** [/li][li] Olli Jokinen to **Calgary** - Matthew Lombardi, Brandon Prust, and a 1st Round Pick to **Phoenix** [/li][/ul]

Waiver moves:  
Martin Gerber to **Toronto**  
Eric Reitz to **Toronto**  
Brendan Morrison to **Dallas**  
Craig Adams to **Pittsburgh**

Calgary is definitely an early winner. Picking up Jokinen and Leopold is huge. But it looks like they’re over the cap so they’ve got to dump some salary. Maybe they can throw someone to Toronto along with a pick to get under the cap.

So is the Phoenix bank account…not surprised that they’re dumping salary.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/2 "2009-03-04T18:30:20Z")

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Mark Recchi to **Boston** - TBA to **Tampa Bay**

Other news:  
Ottawa has resigned Filip Kuba to a 3 year/$11.1 million contract.  
Buffalo has resigned Tim Connolly to a 2 year/$9 milllion contract.  
Los Angeles has resigned Erik Ersberg.

Also, Calgary is receiving a 3rd Round Pick as part of the Jokinen deal.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/3 "2009-03-04T18:35:53Z")

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Ottawa inexplicably re-signed Kuba to a 3-year deal for $3.7 per. I’m furious. It’s just an awful deal all around. That’s way too much money for a guy who’s been a millstone around the neck of our PP, and who doesn’t defend well either. Ottawa would have been much better to trade him for picks and prospects.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/4 "2009-03-04T18:37:42Z")

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Mark Recchi and a 2010 2nd Round Pick to **Boston** - Matt Lashoff and Martins Karsums to **Tampa Bay**

Toskala is out for the year which sort of explains the Gerber pickup. I wonder why they just don’t use Pogge and Joseph down the stretch. Winning games is not what the Leafs should be doing and when are we going to see what Pogge has.

I don’t get the Kuba signing…my first reaction was that he’s not worth that kind of money. But I don’t see a lot of Sens games so I know I might’ve been wrong.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/5 "2009-03-04T18:38:16Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> So is the Phoenix bank account…not surprised that they’re dumping salary.

There are actually rumors here that the Coyotes may be the first team in years in the big 4 leagues to actually fold the franchise. I’m not sure how valid the rumors are, but the Coyotes are bankrupt.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/6 "2009-03-04T18:41:00Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> Winning games is not what the Leafs should be doing

Hence the acquisition of Gerber.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/7 "2009-03-04T18:45:33Z")

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I don’t know. I’d say between Gerber, Joseph, and Pogge that Gerber is the best of the bunch. Now that’s very faint praise but I think it’s true.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/8 "2009-03-04T18:59:21Z")

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If the Leafs win the draft lottery, it will almost be as big as winning the Cup.

And they had better hope that Tavares doesn’t flame out.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/9 "2009-03-04T19:10:05Z")

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Bill Guerin to **Pittsburgh** - Conditional Pick\* to **NY Islanders**

\*5th Round Pick if Pittsburgh misses the playoffs  
\*4th Round Pick if Pittsburgh makes the playoffs  
\*3th Round Pick if Pittsburgh wins a round

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/10 "2009-03-04T19:49:05Z")

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Scottie Upshall and a 2nd Round Pick to **Phoenix** - Daniel Carcillo to **Philadelphia**  
Nik Antropov to NY Rangers - 2nd Round and a Conditional Pick to Toronto

If that conditional pick turns out to be a 3rd Round Pick or even a 4th, I’ll be happy.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/11 "2009-03-04T20:14:10Z")

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[ul]  
[li]Derek Morris to **NY Rangers** - Dmitri Kalinin, Petr Prucha, and Nigel Dawes to **Phoenix** [/li][li]Dominic Moore to **Buffalo** - 2nd Round Pick to **Toronto** [/li][li]Erik Christensen to **Anaheim** - Eric O’Dell to **Atlanta** [/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/12 "2009-03-04T20:19:00Z")

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The Senators inexplicably did not trade Chris Neil, despite the fact that he’s asking for way too much money and is a UFA at the end of the year.

The jury is still out on the Vermette trade, but all-in-all this was a horrible trade deadline for the Senators.

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**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/13 "2009-03-04T20:33:54Z")

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Opposing viewpoint: Jokinen is a loser, and Phoenix will be significantly better without him (just like Florida).

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/14 "2009-03-04T21:09:22Z")

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> [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](#):
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> Opposing viewpoint: Jokinen is a loser, and Phoenix will be significantly better without him (just like Florida).

Even if that is the case, worst case scenario is that Olli tanks and they lose a late first round pick and Lombardi. We aren’t talking Leeman for Gilmore here…

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/15 "2009-03-04T21:10:44Z")

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[ul]  
[li]Kevin Lalande to **Columbus** - 4th Round Pick to **Calgary** [/li][li]Kyle McLaren to **Philadelphia** - 6th Round Pick to **San Jose** [/li][li]Justin Williams to **Los Angeles** - Patrick O’Sullivan to **Carolina** [/li][li]Patrick O’Sullivan to **Edmonton** - Erik Cole to **Carolina** [/li][li]Sami Pahlsson to **Chicago** - James Wisniewski to **Anaheim** [/li][li]Steve Eminger to **Florida** - Noah Welch and a 3rd Round Pick to **Tampa Bay** [/li][li]Travis Moen and Kent Huskins to **San Jose** - Nick Bonnino, Timo Pielmeier, and a Conditional Pick to **Anaheim** [/li][/ul]

There’s probably some draft picks to be thrown in there and a minor Leaf deal that hasn’t made it through yet but that might be it.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/16 "2009-03-04T21:23:26Z")

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Two more deals to (maybe) finish this off…

Ales Kotalik to **Edmonton** - 2nd Round Pick to **Buffalo**  
Olaf Kolzig, Jamie Heward, Andy Rogers, and a 4th Round Pick to **Toronto** - Richard Petiot to **Tampa Bay**

WTF is that about? Nevermind.

It’s a salary dump by Tampa Bay. $2,000,000 off of the Lightning’s cap and the Leafs get a 4th Round Pick for the trouble. Pretty much…

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**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/17 "2009-03-05T02:29:16Z")

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> [@Kid\_A](#):
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> Scottie Upshall and a 2nd Round Pick to **Phoenix** - Daniel Carcillo to **Philadelphia**  
> Nik Antropov to NY Rangers - 2nd Round and a Conditional Pick to Toronto
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> If that conditional pick turns out to be a 3rd Round Pick or even a 4th, I’ll be happy.

I’m assuming the condition is. at minimum, the Rangers make the playoffs. Won’t be a 3rd, and the Rangers don’t have a 4th. Probably be a return of the 5th the Leafs gave to get Hollweg.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/18 "2009-03-05T02:33:52Z")

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> [@bmoak](#):
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> I’m assuming the condition is. at minimum, the Rangers make the playoffs. Won’t be a 3rd, and the Rangers don’t have a 4th. Probably be a return of the 5th the Leafs gave to get Hollweg.

I seem to recall that the condition is whether the Rangers re-sign him or not.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2009-nhl-trade-deadline/488293/19 "2009-03-05T03:00:36Z")

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Anybody in Edmonton excited about Patty O’Sullivan? [crickets]

Anybody in LA excited about a 27-year old, 30-goal-scoring, cup winning, gritty winger (Justin Williams)? HELL YEAH.

Lombardi is building this team for the real deal. “We go and face a team like San Jose, and we’re very small on the wings. We’ve got to continue to address that.” Gunning for #1 not 7 or 8: I LOVE THAT.
