# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2401 "2010-07-07T13:49:06Z")

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If the Paraguay goal was offside, this one was too.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2402 "2010-07-07T14:12:20Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> I fairness that was a very close call and hard to make on the spot. It’s another case for video replay but it’s a perfectly acceptable miss under the current system. It’s not on the level as some other terrible calls.

I agree. I was only responding/defending the questioning of the post I made at the time of the goal.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2403 "2010-07-07T15:41:38Z")

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> “The newer balls have a smoother surface. In the past, the soccer ball had a rougher surface, making the knuckling speed about 30 mph. Today, the ball starts to knuckle, or go wobbly, at a speed of 45 – 50 mph.”

So, older balls were worse. Which is what I thought–not that I’ve tried them myself, but complaints that there have been more wild kicks this years don’t jive with my memory of past events.

Also, clearly some teams have done well with the ball; I’m thinking of a pair of splendid free kicks from Japan in particular.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2404 "2010-07-07T17:04:43Z")

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Del Bosque finally listens. Breaking:

[**Pedro, titular por Torres**](http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/pedro-titular-torres/dasftb/20100707dasdasftb_43/Tes)

Starting eleven: **Casillas; Sergio Ramos, Puyol, Piqué, Capdevila; Xabi Alonso, Busquets; Iniesta, Xavi, Pedro y Villa**

I do believe with that move – which practically everyone had been clamoring for – things just might have gotten a bit more complicated for Germany.

Win or lose, I feel good. Because we’re going out with one of our best possible line-ups. Finally!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2405 "2010-07-07T18:34:21Z")

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Some moron just ran onto the field and had to be dragged off by security.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2406 "2010-07-07T18:47:39Z")

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Yikes! Germany’s just getting killed on possession. I hate to see a strategy as boring as Spain’s working.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2407 "2010-07-07T19:20:40Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> Yikes! Germany’s just getting killed on possession. I hate to see a strategy as boring as Spain’s working.

Boring? Attacking constantly is boring football, now?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2408 "2010-07-07T19:36:53Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> Boring? Attacking constantly is boring football, now?

Yeah, Spain’s attack is looking very nice. Germany’s last line of defense has been good, but Spain is doing nicely at getting the ball into the attacking zone.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2409 "2010-07-07T19:44:34Z")

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Some very nice chances there. Good save from the German keeper.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2410 "2010-07-07T19:45:05Z")

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Spain piling up the pressure. Something’s got to give soon, one would think, on either side.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2411 "2010-07-07T19:51:54Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Yeah, Spain’s attack is looking very nice. Germany’s last line of defense has been good, but Spain is doing nicely at getting the ball into the attacking zone.

In the first half, they were getting it in, yes. They weren’t doing much with it, though. To my undereducated eyes, it was pretty dull.

ETA: I am _not_ liking how Germany looks right now.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2412 "2010-07-07T19:59:14Z")

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Nice header! 1-0

Have to say that Spain deserve to have the lead.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2413 "2010-07-07T20:00:10Z")

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1-0, 1-0…another 1-0 for Spain?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2414 "2010-07-07T20:07:43Z")

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Wow, taking David Villa off.

His legs did look a little tired during his last attacking run, but i’m still not sure i’d be replacing him.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2415 "2010-07-07T20:17:47Z")

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I really hope Spain don’t win the Cup. They’re soooooooooooooooo boring. Yes they get the job done, but it’s not pretty.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2416 "2010-07-07T20:20:19Z")

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Congratulations Spain.

Thoroughly deserved the win.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2417 "2010-07-07T20:20:29Z")

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Hey Paul the Octopus, who’s going to win the third-place game?

Paul: _sizzle_

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2418 "2010-07-07T20:22:41Z")

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The most attractively playing side will not be in the final, and the Dutch are denied a great grudgematch. On the other hand, I like Holland’s chances against Spain better than against the Germans.

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**Author:** ![Snifit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Snifit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snifit)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2419 "2010-07-07T20:24:52Z")

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People really think Spain has a boring game? From where I’m standing, they moved the ball beautifully almost the entire match.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/2420 "2010-07-07T20:25:33Z")

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> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> The most attractively playing side will not be in the final, and the Dutch are denied a great grudgematch. On the other hand, I like Holland’s chances against Spain better than against the Germans.

I’m pretty sure that the Netherlands’ grudges against Spain go back way further than their grudges against Germany. 😉

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