# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/541 "2010-06-16T16:15:25Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Can someone explain why there always seems to be more stoppage time at the end of the 2nd half versus the 1st half? Spain got close to an extra 6 minutes to try and tie the game! There is more stoppage time in the second half because almost all substitutions happen in the second half, plus the players are more tired and spend more time on the ground when they get tackled. Plus, the team who is satisfied with the score wastes time in the second half; in the first half, no one is wasting much time. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/542 "2010-06-16T16:18:27Z")
**Erdosain** got there before me… ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/543 "2010-06-16T17:12:04Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Re national teams, as long as your parents are from the country in question, they are pretty liberal about letting you choose what national team you want to play for. In the upcoming Ghana v. Germany game, there will be two brothers playing against each other (assuming they’re both on the field at the same time). > > But as **Frodo** points out, once you pick and play for the adult team, you’re stuck with that team forever. There are quite a few players who could play for more than one team: Miroslav Klose, Podolski, Camoranesi, etc. Yeah, eleven of our German players are “partly” the children of immigrants or immigrants themselves. Here is a list: [ul] [li]Dennis Aogo (Nigeria)[/li][li]Jerome Boateng (Ghana)[/li][li]Serdar Tasci (Turkey)[/li][li]Mesut Özil (Turkey)[/li][li]Sami Khedira (Tunisia)[/li][li]Marko Marin (Bosnia-Herzegovina)[/li][li]Piotr Trochowski (Poland)[/li][li]Miroslav Klose (Poland)[/li][li]Lukas Podolski (Poland)[/li][li]Mario Gomez (Spain)[/li][li]Cacau (Brazil)[/li][/ul] Of course, more than a handful of internationally competent players could play for Germany but decided to play for the home country of their parents, sometimes grandparents. I think, it’s a great step forward. Germany has changed a lot and it’s only fair and appropriate to reflect those changes in our representatives. > [@](#): > > ¿Cuál es el colmo más pequeño? El colmillo Qué chistoso :smack: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/544 "2010-06-16T17:12:29Z")
Just got back from watching the debacle. Too emotionally and physically drained to make any comments other than: Congrats Switzerland. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/545 "2010-06-16T18:27:14Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Just got back from watching the debacle. Too emotionally and physically drained to make any comments other than: > > Congrats Switzerland. No worries, man. We’ll drink some nice beers together, and try to forget! And let’s look forward to better games against the other two teams in the group! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/546 "2010-06-16T19:03:50Z")
goooool!, Uruguay 1 - SA 0, Vamo’ Arriba la Celeste!. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/547 "2010-06-16T20:51:04Z")
And now there are 31 (for all practical purposes.) South Korea-Argentina tomorrow should be a great one to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/548 "2010-06-16T20:56:46Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > There is more stoppage time in the second half because almost all substitutions happen in the second half, plus the players are more tired and spend more time on the ground when they get tackled. Plus, the team who is satisfied with the score wastes time in the second half; in the first half, no one is wasting much time. Is all of this demonstrably true? I’m not questioning your points, but just want to know if anyone has taken the time to actually measure these. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/549 "2010-06-16T20:57:50Z")
South Africa really suffered today. One never wants to see a keeper get himself sent off. Uruguay played great, though; poised, solid, organized. Kudos to them. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/550 "2010-06-16T21:09:24Z")
An eagle-eyed poster on the Guardian MBM has asserted that that second goal was actually offside. Another Uruguay player got a touch on the ball after the initial pass, by which time Suarez was offside. I rewound my DVR to have another look and, by George, he’s right. So no foul, no penalty, no red card. Would it have changed the result, though? Nah. Uruguay were in control throughout. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/551 "2010-06-16T21:21:22Z")
Yeah, Suarez was offside on that play. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/552 "2010-06-16T22:56:36Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Skinny white guys doing the haka > > I get what he meant, but some of the youtube footage of the all blacks suggest a number of those players look to be about the same weight category as the soccer player. > > Declan You’d hardly describe Nelsen himself as a [skinny white guy](http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/fifa-world-cup/all-whites/3816858/All-Whites-skipper-revels-in-special-special-day) (pic about a screen down for evidence). Things are certainly livening up. The Switzerland-Spain result has to be the first big upset of this Cup. And the South African game sounds like creating a bit of controversy (haven’t seen it personally). ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/553 "2010-06-16T23:50:12Z")
\*\*Argentina vs. Korea Rep. 7:30 A.M. EST Greece vs. Nigeria 10:00 A.M. EST France vs. Mexico 2:30 P.M. EST\*\* ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/554 "2010-06-17T00:00:58Z")
Good on you **RedFury** for still posting after that shock result. Looks to be an interesting set of matches this, particularly the first one. My guesses: Argentina will be a little too classy for South Korea, but might get a bit of a fright early, say 2-1 Argentina? Nigeria will beat Greece 2-0. Mexico will beat a lackluster France and effectively put them out of the Cup - 1-0. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/555 "2010-06-17T00:05:25Z")
I didn’t see the South Africa game. When a keeper is red carded, what does the team usually do? Immediately sub a goalie for a position player? Is that what SA did? Is the sub allowed to wear the gear and handle the ball, etc? ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/556 "2010-06-17T00:15:00Z")
Yeah, they put in a new goalie (who changes into the proper kit) and sacrifice a position player. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/557 "2010-06-17T00:20:06Z")
Hmm, I’m crap at calling offside, but I called that one. I’ll have to accept that the linesman had a better view than I. The red card on the goalie seemed harsh- and nothing for the diving? Pity - I don’t like feeling disgruntled with the refs decisions. Uruguay were by far the better team - theatrics included. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/558 "2010-06-17T00:42:26Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > The red card on the goalie seemed harsh… Ignoring the missed offside call for the moment, the red card on Khune was the right call. “Committing an offence that denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity” is an automatic red card. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/559 "2010-06-17T00:53:24Z")
I know **Knorf,** I know. Oh it just pissed me off. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/560 "2010-06-17T00:56:17Z")
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efIb1GYJP8U](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efIb1GYJP8U) The red card. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=29)