# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/561 "2010-06-17T02:15:05Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efIb1GYJP8U](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efIb1GYJP8U) The red card.

OK, thanks. I’m going to state very nearly what I stated for the recent almost-perfect game in baseball.

The play was certainly offside. Given the failure to make that call, a red card on the goalkeeper was absolutely the correct call.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/562 "2010-06-17T02:20:02Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Given the failure to make that call, a red card on the goalkeeper was absolutely the correct call.

I guess that’s right. But the “dive” element was there, too (I hate to see that rewarded).

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/563 "2010-06-17T02:21:05Z")

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Wow, that looked like a horrible call to me.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/564 "2010-06-17T02:39:55Z")

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The replay clearly shows Suarez embellishing the contact, which is annoying. If FIFA started handing out 2-game bans for diving, it seems like they’d stamp it out pretty quickly.

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/565 "2010-06-17T03:12:24Z")

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Yet, why didn’t the linesman call it? The offside.

[http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html](http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html)

This is pretty cool - World Cup Calendar

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**Author:** ![vdgg81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@vdgg81](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vdgg81)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/566 "2010-06-17T04:23:29Z")

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It’s a close call but I thought that the player wasn’t offside. For what it’s worth, the broadcast I saw had one of those still shots with the offside line marked and the Uruguayan player was in a legal position, which I confirmed to my satisfaction with the youtube video.

I was sad to see South Africa go. I realize they never really had a chance, but still…

On the broadcast of this match the commentators mentioned that all the stadia used in this WC have pitches that are of the smallest size allowed for by FIFA. That at least _helps_ to explain why we are seeing so few goals.

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/567 "2010-06-17T04:43:13Z")

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> [@vdgg81](#):
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> It’s a close call but I thought that the player wasn’t offside. For what it’s worth, the broadcast I saw had one of those still shots with the offside line marked and the Uruguayan player was in a legal position, which I confirmed to my satisfaction with the youtube video.
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> I was sad to see South Africa go. I realize they never really had a chance, but still…
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> On the broadcast of this match the commentators mentioned that all the stadia used in this WC have pitches that are of the smallest size allowed for by FIFA. That at least _helps_ to explain why we are seeing so few goals.

They still have a chance, however remote:

1. Mexico draws with France
2. South Africa beats France
3. Uruguay beats Mexico

Uruguay 2-0-1 7  
South Africa 1-1-1 4  
France 0-1-2 2  
Mexico 0-1-2 2

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/568 "2010-06-17T04:48:12Z")

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Having discovered that the Ivory Coast’s team is called Les Elephants, I’m adopting them as my team. Elephant Power!

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/569 "2010-06-17T07:50:48Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Dual citizenship arrangements in Ireland complicate matters further. I am not sure exactly what the rules are there but they were noted for fielding players whose connection with Ireland was a little tenuous.

It was always required that a person playing for Ireland had Irish citizenship. It’s just that Irish citizenship rules are a little more generous than for most countries, in that it’s available to anyone with an Irish-born grandparent (or in very limited circumstances, a great-grandparent). And there are a lot of English footballers with Irish grannies, so often if they can’t make the England squad they’ll look to Ireland for the chance to play international football. There was a time when the bulk of the Irish squad was made up of such players but that hasn’t been the case for a while now.

Where things get complicated is with players from the North of Ireland. They’re entitled to both Irish and British citizenship and a number of them, for either political or football reasons, have opted to play for the Republic of Ireland. The Republic’s football association is quite happy with this (at least for the better players) but obviously the Northern association isn’t, and has asked FIFA to intervene, which so far it’s refused to do. It’s an ongoing issue.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/570 "2010-06-17T11:50:56Z")

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Thanks Park!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/571 "2010-06-17T11:54:35Z")

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> [@Estilicon](#):
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> Thanks Park!

Tough break for the feisty Koreans, but it’s good luck for Argentina.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/572 "2010-06-17T12:02:50Z")

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TEVEZ is GOD.

gooooool 2-0 😃

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/573 "2010-06-17T12:03:32Z")

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Looks like ESPN has done a better job of filtering out the vuvuzeula noise today.

Thanks Argentina for making this 4 am wake up worthwhile!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/574 "2010-06-17T12:17:10Z")

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Argh, can we never be relaxed in an Argentina Game?, horrible mistake by Demichelis, 2-1

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/575 "2010-06-17T12:23:14Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Looks like ESPN has done a better job of filtering out the vuvuzeula noise today.

Maybe they’re just not as exuberant there after the loss yesterday. I did see an article on [Slate.com](http://Slate.com) about a German who came up with a way to filter out the frequencies for the horns on home audio or computer equipment which made me wonder why the network hasn’t been doing this all along.

Nice come back goal by the Koreans to keep it interesting.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/576 "2010-06-17T12:33:33Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Argh, can we never be relaxed in an Argentina Game?, horrible mistake by Demichelis, 2-1

Yes but he couldn’t hear the warnings of his team mates because of those instruments of evil.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/577 "2010-06-17T13:04:40Z")

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

3-1

breath in - breath out

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/578 "2010-06-17T13:07:51Z")

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Uiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!! :d

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**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/579 "2010-06-17T13:09:44Z")

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Offside 😉

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/580 "2010-06-17T13:11:01Z")

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Great stuff. Messi is a nightmare for the other team.

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