# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/681 "2010-06-18T13:58:07Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > I’m not saying that the whistles weren’t fouls. I just don’t think the players should have booked every time. Bookings should be used to warn players that they have stepped over the bounds and committed a dangerous or dirty foul. It’s football not lawn chess. Football is a contact sport. Again the laws of the game leave this up to the referee to decide, the wording is simply “unsporting behavior” which is about as vague as you can get. Referees are like legal judges, it would be nice if they all ruled the same way in all cases but it doesn’t work like that, some are strict and some are lenient. ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/682 "2010-06-18T14:00:01Z")
> [@wintertime](#): > > 3 Euros – you know why! 😛 Just send me you Kontonummer and Banbkleitzahl. 😉 Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk. Now… Go USA!!! ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/683 "2010-06-18T14:01:45Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > The referee in this game [Poturgal - Netherlands WC 2006](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4991538.stm) started booking people for every little foul also, and it was also a travesty. I thought you as a Dutchman would at least remember that. I remember that game very well - but I don’t think it’s quite comparable. After the game Ivanov was scalded and I seem to recall Blatter saying that it was _him_ who should have gotten a yellow card. I don’t expect such a reprimand for this game nor do I think it would be deserved. Anyway, water under the bridge: on to Slovenia - USA. One thing: Onyewu needs a facial hair adjustment badly! ETA: and Dempsey deserves a booking for that elbow! ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/684 "2010-06-18T14:09:59Z")
Leading with the elbow like that is usually a red card offence. I don’t think the ref saw it though as he initially gave the freekick to USA before realising his mistake. That could really have shaken things up if he sent him off so quickly! ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/685 "2010-06-18T14:14:24Z")
Well, the US is now in deep trouble. That’s why they play the games. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/686 "2010-06-18T14:15:56Z")
Great goal. Come on the USA. Get back into it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/687 "2010-06-18T14:22:38Z")
Pardon the interruption, but could someone clear up a couple things? 1- Am I correct that 2 Yellows in one game = 1 Red and you’re ejected? 2- Does a Yellow card in one game get carried to the next? In other words, YC in game 1, + YC in game 2 = ejection? 3- When do yellow cards get purged from your record? In other words, YC in game 1 + YC in game 3 is not cause for ejection? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/688 "2010-06-18T14:27:38Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Pardon the interruption, but could someone clear up a couple things? > > 1- Am I correct that 2 Yellows in one game = 1 Red and you’re ejected? > > 2- Does a Yellow card in one game get carried to the next? In other words, YC in game 1, + YC in game 2 = ejection? > > 3- When do yellow cards get purged from your record? In other words, YC in game 1 + YC in game 3 is not cause for ejection? You need two yellows in any game to be ejected. The next game you also need two to be ejected. \*\* However\*\* if you get 1 yellow in 1 game and a yellow in the next ( or just two yellows in one game) you are not allowed play in the next game. If you get a red you also are also not allowed play in the next game. AFAIK all cards are wiped after the first round and playing start the next round with a clean slate. ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/689 "2010-06-18T14:28:10Z")
1. Yes 2. No 3. There is a cumulative effect for yellow cards over the course of a competition (usually 3 or 5 cards will get you a suspension from the next match but you finish the current match), the slate gets wiped clean part way through. For example, in the World Cup the yellow cards get wiped from the record after the quarter finals. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/690 "2010-06-18T14:29:47Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Pardon the interruption, but could someone clear up a couple things? > > 1- Am I correct that 2 Yellows in one game = 1 Red and you’re ejected? > > 2- Does a Yellow card in one game get carried to the next? In other words, YC in game 1, + YC in game 2 = ejection? > > 3- When do yellow cards get purged from your record? In other words, YC in game 1 + YC in game 3 is not cause for ejection? any 2 yellows in the group stage mean a one match suspension. If this is during one match then you miss the remainder of that match also. Cards reset for the 1/4 finals onwards ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/691 "2010-06-18T14:39:24Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > You need two yellows in any game to be ejected. > > The next game you also need two to be ejected. > \*\* > However\*\* if you get 1 yellow in 1 game and a yellow in the next ( or just two yellows in one game) you are not allowed play in the next game. > > If you get a red you also are also not allowed play in the next game. > AFAIK all cards are wiped after the first round and playing start the next round with a clean slate. Note, however, that if you get a suspension, your team will still play with the full number of players on the field - it’s just that you yourself will not be allowed to play for that game. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/692 "2010-06-18T14:41:10Z")
And now Findley gets jobbed. Did someone drug the water in the Referees’ locker room this morning? …and the US is pretty much finished unless they can put a few away, which won’t happen as long as a face is considered a hand. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/693 "2010-06-18T14:43:42Z")
Ooooo - what a beauty! ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/694 "2010-06-18T14:49:18Z")
What’s wrong with the American backs? ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/695 "2010-06-18T14:50:43Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > And now Findley gets jobbed. Did someone drug the water in the Referees’ locker room this morning? Be glad that you’re not dealing with Alberto Undiano Mallenco. Good game so far, very entertaining. Oh, and I forgot something important: _Congratulations to Serbia!_ ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/696 "2010-06-18T14:58:23Z")
This is the US team I expected to see. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/697 "2010-06-18T15:03:29Z")
Shocking scoreline. The US back line, which looked shaken but not stirred against England, looks totally lost. And I’m sure England supporters are going to be very silent right now. Are Slovenia really that good, or is the US really that bad? ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/698 "2010-06-18T15:05:32Z")
THAT was a goal. How the hell did he make that angle? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/699 "2010-06-18T15:05:37Z")
DONOVAN! Right back in it, US! ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/700 "2010-06-18T15:07:03Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Shocking scoreline. The US back line, which looked shaken but not stirred against England, looks totally lost. > > And I’m sure England supporters are going to be very silent right now. Are Slovenia really that good, or is the US really that bad? USA are that bad - a couple of their players (e.g. Torres) look totally out of place at this level. England reverted to long balls forward which are easy for any team to deal with… against a side that hold on to possession, USA don’t have the ability to regain control. If England get a decent result against Algeria tonight I (and assuming the Yanks beat Algeria too) it’ll mean we need a draw or win against Slovenia in the final game to progress, whereas USA have to hope England lose. Interesting stuff through, especially considering that Slovenia have fewer than 2m people in their whole country to pick a team from! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=36)