# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/61 "2010-06-12T00:19:46Z")

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Have you seen this thing where you can replay games as experienced through the prism of Twitter? Sounds like bollocks, but it is kind of interesting. Watch the Twitter circles ebb and flow and explode at key points in the game. [Flash]

> **[World Cup 2010 Twitter replay](https://www.theguardian.com/football/world-cup-match-replay)**
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> Follow our high-speed replay of the World Cup and find out how Twitter reacted to every game

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/62 "2010-06-12T00:54:52Z")

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I don’t get it, **Ximenean**. All I get is a bunch of bubbles when finished downloading. No doubt it’s cool, but it’d be even better if I understood what it meant.

I’m using Firefox if that matters.

Signed,

~Dumb & Dumber

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Say anyone know of **DS Young’s** whereabouts? Miss the guy in threads like this one.

Trust he is doing well anyway.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/63 "2010-06-12T00:59:00Z")

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> [@Mehitabel](#):
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> Thanks so much! But how would you get 2 points if it’s 1 for tying and 3 for winning?

I am not a soccer guy, and I’m probably wrong, but I think maybe you were confused by this:

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> A record of 2-1-0 in the group stages ALMOST guarantees going through, 1-1-1 is often good enough.

**MaxTheVool** is referring to the teams won/loss/tie records. In the 2-1-0 example, that team would have 6 points, because they won 2 games and lost 1.  
In the 1-1-1 example, that team would have 4 points, because they won a game, lost a game and tied a game.  
And **GEAUX USA!**

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/64 "2010-06-12T01:03:55Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> I don’t get it, **Ximenean**. All I get is a bunch of bubbles when finished downloading. No doubt it’s cool, but it’d be even better if I understood what it meant.

Well, you click on a game and you get to relive it, as seen through the tweets of people around the world, conveyed to you through the medium of… pulsating circles. Or something. Look, I didn’t say it wasn’t nebulous bullshit, because it quite clearly is, but I nevertheless find it diverting.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/65 "2010-06-12T01:12:52Z")

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**Gr[color=#C0C0C0]eece[/color] vs No[color=#FF0000]rth Korea[/color] 7:30 A.M.**

Apologies for missing that one. Then again, it’s not one I’m waking up for. DVR will do just fine.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/66 "2010-06-12T01:15:38Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Well, you click on a game and you get to relive it, as seen through the tweets of people around the world, conveyed to you through the medium of… pulsating circles. Or something. Look, I didn’t say it wasn’t nebulous bullshit, because it quite clearly is, but I nevertheless find it diverting.

Kewl, it is. But I also feel like an idiot for trying to make sense out of it. 😉

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/67 "2010-06-12T01:27:13Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I am not a soccer guy, and I’m probably wrong, but I think maybe you were confused by this:
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> **MaxTheVool** is referring to the teams won/loss/tie records. In the 2-1-0 example, that team would have 6 points, because they won 2 games and lost 1.  
> In the 1-1-1 example, that team would have 4 points, because they won a game, lost a game and tied a game.  
> And **GEAUX USA!**

Pretty good for an American semi-neophyte. Now go catch footy-fever dammit!

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/68 "2010-06-12T01:34:49Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> **Gr[color=#C0C0C0]eece[/color] vs No[color=#FF0000]rth Korea[/color] 7:30 A.M.**
> 
> Apologies for missing that one. Then again, it’s not one I’m waking up for. DVR will do just fine.

Actually, it will be a little bit better than that: it’s Greece v. South Korea. I’ll still probably sleep through it, though.

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**Author:** ![Parenchyma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Parenchyma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Parenchyma)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/69 "2010-06-12T01:44:41Z")

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So a possible answer to my earlier query (post [39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12564246&postcount=39)) about Univision announcer Bracamontes is that the mockery of Tshabalala’s name continued with mockery of African town and team names. This site says it is [racism](http://guanabee.com/2010/06/pablo-ramirez-tshabalala/) . Most of the games I’ll watch will be on Univision. Is that really how it will be all tournament?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/70 "2010-06-12T02:29:05Z")

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> [@Parenchyma](#):
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> So a possible answer to my earlier query (post [39](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12564246&postcount=39)) about Univision announcer Bracamontes is that the mockery of Tshabalala’s name continued with mockery of African town and team names. This site says it is [racism](http://guanabee.com/2010/06/pablo-ramirez-tshabalala/) . Most of the games I’ll watch will be on Univision. Is that really how it will be all tournament?

If I may, without even listening to Univision (same feed, but really crappy commentators) I highly doubt it has anything

Could be wrong but I doubt to do with racism as much as pronouncing names as written – as per the Spanish alphabet anyway.

And remember, many of those broadcasters/journalists know the players beyond the pitch. Thus these are the only ones (that are) in position to asses. All else, including color is only in their mind’s aye.

Cheers Eye.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/71 "2010-06-12T02:58:46Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> OTH, Mexico’s keeper is the stuff of nightmares.

True. I generally like Mexico’s chances of going relatively deep, but their GK might kill that.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Oh, and go the vuvuzelas. I’m already tuning out the drone, it’s been pretty constant for the last 3 days, 24/7. There’s a[GIANT vuvuzela](http://www.chrisrawlinson.com/2010/06/hyundai-cape-town-giant-vuvuzela/) in Cape Town that’ll get blown @ the start of every match and every time Bafana score a goal - that thing was LOUD, tonight.

Those cheap plastic horns are the reason I hope to see South Africa crash & burn in the next two matches. Brazil gives us Samba. Many other nations will sing. Those horns are what SA is giving the soccer world. And they’re proud of that? I am now a huge fan af France & Uruguay.

> [@TheBoltEater](#):
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> I agree with you wholeheartedly here. I thought Tyler was quite good and Ekoku was just OK, but they completely butchered that call. The TV replay kept showing them that the keeper had gone out for the ball, thereby making the Mexican player offside, and they kept saying it was a blown call because there was a defender on the goal line.

I agree. I like Tyler, but it’s pretty inexcusable to screw that up once they saw the replay.

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**Author:** ![goliath74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4bbf92/32.png) [@goliath74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goliath74)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/72 "2010-06-12T04:14:34Z")

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That South Africa, Mexico, France, Uruguay group looks quite soft now that first two matches have been played. Weak!!!

Javier, this is me, Eugene

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/73 "2010-06-12T05:33:22Z")

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Mexicans I know have latched on to an interesting conspiracy theory: FIFA, in their efforts to get the host country to the second round, got Mexico to give the man who was until 3 weeks ago their third string goalkeeper the top job against South Africa. I honestly don’t know what Aguirre is thinking putting Perez in over Ochoa or Michel. Ochoa would have stopped that (great) South African goal, i think, not from superior skill but just from a longer arm.

I felt both teams were not playing up to their typical form out of nerves, my evidence being the number of botched passes that I had seen at least the Mexicans ace in other friendlies. Now that Mexico didn’t do anything bad to South Africa and their victories help Bafana Bafana in the next two games, I hope they get some local support.

France bores me without Zidane. I predict South Africa and Mexico both beat them, and that Mexico and the winner of the South Africa/Uruguay game advance.

I can’t wait to see which team pulls of a Senegal and beats a big boy this tournament. North Korea? New Zealand?

I will be cheering for USA tomorrow, they can beat England if they focus on crisp, patient passing and ball possession. Torres ought to start. Should be a hell of a game.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/74 "2010-06-12T12:29:25Z")

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This is my first World Cup since bringing my daughter home from Korea.

And now, Korea is beating Greece 1-0!

Go Korea!  
Yeah, I see North Korea is in it, too. Are they any good? We’re South Korean here, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/75 "2010-06-12T12:39:08Z")

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The games are great, but am I the only person annoyed by the endless low droning that comes from the idiots that won’t stop blowing on those [damn plastic trumpets](http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/plastic-trumpets-fanatics-and-the-taxi-drivers-verdict-20100611-y37d.html)?

EDIT: I guess not. That’ll teach me to read more carefully.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/76 "2010-06-12T12:45:33Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> Those cheap plastic horns are the reason I hope to see South Africa crash & burn in the next two matches. Brazil gives us Samba. Many other nations will sing. Those horns are what SA is giving the soccer world. And they’re proud of that? I am now a huge fan af France & Uruguay.

Chalk me up as another one who is starting to hate those horns. It sounds like a swarm of angry hornets are hovering above the stadium.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/77 "2010-06-12T12:53:45Z")

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Korea are simply outclassing Greece here. Greece got nothing. Would it be patronising to observe that it is a sign of how football has gone global, that it is no longer surprising to see an Asian side comfortably beating a European side? Yes, it probably would.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/78 "2010-06-12T13:16:30Z")

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And 2 goals from a United player, Park Ji Sung, has been nice to see although I’d love him to have got his hat-trick.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/79 "2010-06-12T13:19:56Z")

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2-0

Go Korea! Dude, they really outplayed Greece. Greece’s chances just dropped by a lot.

This year, I have three countries representing me. USA, S. Korea, and England.

Yes, I’m conflicted over today’s match at 2:30 Eastern. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/80 "2010-06-12T13:26:45Z")

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God (I mean Diego), please bring the cup back.

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