# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1081 "2010-06-22T14:40:28Z")

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> [@JoseB](#):
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> I must say that I have never seen a team devour itself so thoroughly as France has done during this year’s World Cup.

It’s incredible. I mean it’s usually the Dutch who implode, but not on this scale.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1082 "2010-06-22T14:41:07Z")

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2-0 RSA. And an offside third.

I’m in the enjoyable position of both seeing France lose (no offense) and South Africa win - even if the other group match means RSA don’t go through, beating France is a pretty damn good consolation prize for the hosts.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1083 "2010-06-22T14:42:03Z")

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Glimmer of hope for South Africa. If they can score one more goal, a 1-0 win for Uruguay over Mexico would be enough to put them through on goals scored (I think).

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1084 "2010-06-22T14:46:17Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> Glimmer of hope for South Africa. If they can score one more goal, a 1-0 win for Uruguay over Mexico would be enough to put them through on goals scored (I think).

They need to make up goal differential first. So SA really needs 4 goals plus a 1-0 Uruguay win, or 3 goals and a 2-0 Uruguay win, etc.

Uruguay’s up 1-0, so the possibility is there.

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**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1085 "2010-06-22T14:57:27Z")

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South Africa are at -1 now and Mexico are at +1 so South Africa and/or Uruguay need to score at least two more goals. But if Uruguay score twice more, than South Africa and Mexico have the exact same goal differential. I don’t know what happens then - but I think Mexico might go through in that case because they beat South Africa earlier.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1086 "2010-06-22T14:57:28Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> They need to make up goal differential first. So SA really needs 4 goals plus a 1-0 Uruguay win, or 3 goals and a 2-0 Uruguay win, etc.

Yes, I mis-read South Africa’s goal difference.

> [@Svejk\_1](#):
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> South Africa are at -1 now and Mexico are at +1 so South Africa and/or Uruguay need to score at least two more goals. But if Uruguay score twice more, than South Africa and Mexico have the exact same goal differential. I don’t know what happens then - but I think Mexico might go through in that case because they beat South Africa earlier.

I’m pretty sure South Africa would go through on goals scored, which takes precedence over head-to-head record.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1087 "2010-06-22T15:00:16Z")

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Come on SA.

Stick it to the French for us 😃  
It would be great to see SA get into the next round.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1088 "2010-06-22T15:02:54Z")

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Go South Africa!, Go Uruguay! 😃

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**Author:** ![footballisplayedwithyourfeet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9f8e36/32.png) [@footballisplayedwithyourfeet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/footballisplayedwithyourfeet)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1089 "2010-06-22T15:04:25Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> Yes, I mis-read South Africa’s goal difference.
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> I’m pretty sure South Africa would go through on goals scored, which takes precedence over head-to-head record.

I think he meant to say if the scores are such that the goal difference is exactly the same (so also the amount of goals scored). But he is still wrong since Mexico and South Africa drew their game. if this happens lots will be drawn…

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1090 "2010-06-22T15:15:38Z")

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…which is shame, because you don’t have to resort to lots so quickly. There is another logical and fair tiebreaker they could apply first.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1091 "2010-06-22T15:31:43Z")

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That’s probably going to do it for South Africa. At this point they need an aggregate 3 goals from themselves and Uruguay with less than 20 minutes in each game.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1092 "2010-06-22T15:32:53Z")

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France scores, 1 -2 :(.

It was nice thinking about Argentina playing RSA in the next match, oh well, Mexico it is.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1093 "2010-06-22T15:34:53Z")

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Damn ☹

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**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1094 "2010-06-22T15:55:58Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> Stick it to the French for us 😃

Not _all_ the French, please. This is _not_ my team, no fucking way. I’m glad that those overpayed, underage-prostitute-banging bastards are out.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1095 "2010-06-22T15:58:29Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> France scores, 1 -2 :(.
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> It was nice thinking about Argentina playing RSA in the next match, oh well, Mexico it is.

Mexico is still probably having nightmares about [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVSOGLyAcU).

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1096 "2010-06-22T15:59:04Z")

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Well, we saved face before going out. Win!

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1097 "2010-06-22T16:00:57Z")

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And the French manager refuses to shake hands with the South African manager. What an arse.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1098 "2010-06-22T16:10:10Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Mexico is still probably having nightmares about [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVSOGLyAcU).

Can’t go to youtube at work, is that the Maxi Rodriguez goal from the last WC?,

People here at work are saying “Mexico again?, booooring” :P.

Except the one Mexican co-worker who was sweating bullets all morning.

I was tempted not to tell him of the French goal and let him suffer a bit more (he was glued to the TV and I was checking the net, so he didnt know about it).

In the end I decided to get some good karma and told him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1099 "2010-06-22T16:14:51Z")

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> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#):
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> Not _all_ the French, please. This is _not_ my team, no fucking way. I’m glad that those overpayed, underage-prostitute-banging bastards are out.

I meant the team. I feel for the French supporters having to have that shower representing you.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1100 "2010-06-22T16:17:54Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Can’t go to youtube at work, is that the Maxi Rodriguez goal from the last WC?

It is, and amazingly it was just the second best Argentine goal at that WC (the second against Serbia was an all-timer).

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