# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1121 "2010-06-22T20:45:38Z")

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Tweet from @fivethirtyeight: South America: 10 Wins, 2 Draws, 0 Losses. 21 GF, 4 GA. Has any continent ever so dominated the group stage?

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1122 "2010-06-22T20:57:15Z")

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And Palermo scored. He is Argentina´s most beloved player.  
Great moment.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1123 "2010-06-22T22:07:41Z")

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> [@MilTan](#):
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> This is correct. Moreover, it means that if Switzerland beats Honduras and Spain beats Chile, the _best_ Chile can do is tie the Swiss on goal differential. Right now, Chile is +2, Switzerland is +1. If the final games proceed according to expectation, Chile would be (at best) +1, and Switzerland would be (at worst) +1.

Correction: Switzerland, as per post [1059](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12602938&postcount=1059) is NOT at +1. They at 0 goal differential. Plus one for their win against us, minus one for their loss to Chile.

It’s _Spain_ that’s at +1, thus the [group standings](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_H).

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1124 "2010-06-22T22:14:17Z")

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\*\*Slovenia vs England 10:00 A.M. EST

[size=6]USA vs Algeria 10:00 A.M. EST

Ghana vs Germany 2:30 P.M. EST

Australia vs Serbia 2:30 P.M. EST[/size]\*\*

Should be quite a day!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1125 "2010-06-22T22:19:57Z")

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> [@Estilicon](#):
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> And Palermo scored. He is Argentina´s most beloved player.  
> Great moment.

As a River Plate fan I beg to differ…

however I am very glad that now is the opposing team who suffers his impossible goals 😃

At the end today I chanted with all the rest of the people in the Café “PALEEEERMOOOO! PALEEEEEERMOO!!!”

😃

Aguante el Titán!

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1126 "2010-06-22T22:29:45Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> As a River Plate fan I beg to differ…

As a River Plate fan you most certainly need to beg 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1127 "2010-06-22T22:35:45Z")

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According to Sky Sports here are the odds on advancing:  
England 4/9  
USA 4/7  
Slovenia 8/13  
Algeria 4/1

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1128 "2010-06-22T22:44:14Z")

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> [@Estilicon](#):
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> As a River Plate fan you most certainly need to beg 🙂

ouch!, that hurts you… you.. you… are right ☹

But someday, someday we’ll be back!, perhaps my grandchildren will see it?

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**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1129 "2010-06-22T23:15:00Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Argentinian Friend?, spend time here?

Yeah, I spent some time in Argentina, back in the early 90s, which totally ruined the castellano I had learned because of mi novia and her friends .. capricious (mis)use of grammar and outrageous neologisms. Good times. Oh man, ¡Cuánto tiempo!

Well, Argentina is through and I’m glad for you guys who wave the Bandera blanca y celeste. The team looks dangerous and is not yet at its peak – they’ll be one of the teams to beat to kiss the Cup in the end.

I am looking forward to tomorrow and feel the first tingles of .. no, not anxiety or concern or unease, just expectation, well 9/10 expectation, 1/10 worries. Pack ma’s!

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1130 "2010-06-23T00:46:41Z")

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> [@wintertime](#):
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> I am looking forward to tomorrow and feel the first tingles of .. no, not anxiety or concern or unease, just expectation, well 9/10 expectation, 1/10 worries. Pack ma’s!

🙂 I came to this thread specifically to say that I’m starting to feel a bit of anxiety about tomorrow! I suspect the first ten minutes will tell us a lot…

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1131 "2010-06-23T03:35:45Z")

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[Awesome World Cup Calendar](http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html). And I’m not even a fan.

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**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1132 "2010-06-23T07:12:25Z")

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> [@wintertime](#):
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> Pack ma’s!

I’m also slightly nervous, yet confident. I think there is actually a FIFA statute that says that Germany has to qualify for the second round. At least they have so far, every time they have been at a World Cup.

Even if they don’t, we should heed the immortal words of Stepi Stepanovic: “Lebbe geht weider”

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1133 "2010-06-23T09:17:38Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> According to Sky Sports here are the odds on advancing:  
> England 4/9  
> USA 4/7  
> Slovenia 8/13  
> Algeria 4/1

I’m predicting a draw between England and Slovenia, which will probably put Slovenia and the USA through. The last time we played them we were lucky to win, and they’ve been on a good run of form since then.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1134 "2010-06-23T09:29:29Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> I’m predicting a draw between England and Slovenia, which will probably put Slovenia and the USA through. The last time we played them we were lucky to win, and they’ve been on a good run of form since then.

They’d better bloody well show up and play like a team ranked 8th and win by a couple of goals. All optimism is out the window at this point though. Will just wait to see what happens.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1135 "2010-06-23T10:33:25Z")

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My predictions for today:

**Slovenia 0 - 1 England** Another drab performance but just enough to progress. Won’t do much to silence the critics.

**USA 2 - 0 Algeria** As long as it’s the USA we saw in the second half against Slovenia.

Final standings:

```auto

 
          P W D L F A GD Pts 
USA 3 1 2 0 5 3 +2 5 
England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 5 
Slovenia 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4 
Algeria 3 0 1 2 0 3 -3 1 

```

**Ghana 1 - 2 Germany** I think this could be quite closely fought. Hoping for a good match.

**Australia 1 - 3 Serbia** The Serbs should have too much class here.

Final standings:

```auto

 
          P W D L F A GD Pts 
Germany 3 2 0 1 7 4 +3 6 
Serbia 3 2 0 1 4 2 +2 6 
Ghana 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4 
Australia 3 0 1 2 2 8 -6 1 

```

So, England to face Germany and USA to face Serbia next round…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1136 "2010-06-23T10:52:26Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> My predictions for today:
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> **Slovenia 0 - 1 England** Another drab performance but just enough to progress. Won’t do much to silence the critics.
> 
> **USA 2 - 0 Algeria** As long as it’s the USA we saw in the second half against Slovenia.  
> So, England to face Germany and USA to face Serbia next round…

I’ll take it.

Today is going to ruin me. I can’t watch the game until tonight. I’ll be running around at work all day with my fingers in my ears.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1137 "2010-06-23T11:15:43Z")

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I can see Algeria drawing with the USA, and England getting a scrawpy Crouch goal to clinch anotherwise tense and sporadic 90 mins.

I’m also going to go for Ghana beating Germany and Australia getting a draw against the Serb’s.

So, we’re both still going through. Who would you prefer, Serbia or Ghana?

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1138 "2010-06-23T11:36:22Z")

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Hey, if we can get Germany next round then that match will pretty much make or break us.

Assuming we get through, anyway.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1139 "2010-06-23T11:38:41Z")

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No, Germany are getting beat by Ghana, so nobody will be playing them.

He says, squeezing his rabbit’s foot, crossing his fingers and toes and chanting “I do believe in miracles, I do, I do.” over and over.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1140 "2010-06-23T13:58:48Z")

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Well, here we go!

Go USA!

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