# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1301 "2010-06-23T19:22:22Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > That was the 2004 European Cup and the referee was [Urs Meier](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urs_Meier): I was referring to Campbell’s disallowed goal against Argentina in 1998. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1302 "2010-06-23T19:25:29Z")
So all scoreless at the half, as apparently all four teams are waiting to see how that one Wimbledon match turns out. ---
**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1303 "2010-06-23T19:33:02Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > The continued whining, in this very thread How exactly would you like us to respond? “Boy it sure was awesome that the refs disallowed 2 goals, either of which would have sent us through but, because of the calls, made us within 2 minutes of elimination and practically gave us a heart attack”? We were rooting for our team and got boned over by multiple bad calls. Any fan would have responded in similar fashion. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1304 "2010-06-23T19:42:29Z")
We really should have 6 points, with England winning the group. (Lost to England when Green makes the routine save, beat Slovenia and Algeria by virtue of the two disaloowed goals.) Close enough. > [@mhendo](#): > > But all this whining and implying (and sometimes outright saying) that everyone hates America and are just trying to eliminate the US team from the World Cup is pretty stupid and petulant. Also, while it doesn’t change the fact that they were bad calls, in the end the US didn’t even end up suffering for the bad calls. They won their division, which is the absolute best possible situation to be in after the Group round. If they had been eliminated by bad calls, some more moaning might be understandable, but they weren’t, so people need to get over it already. Jesus, man, dial back the sanctimony a bit. You’re talking about **an hour after the game**. Don’t we even get an hour, your highness? **Ximenean** got to bitch for days: > [@Ximenean](#): > > No, I know – it happened to my team in the 1998 World Cup, after all, at a later stage than this, when Sol Campbell’s goal was disallowed for… well for something or other. Some foul that the referee saw, apparently. **We bitched about it mightily for a few days** , then moved on. In comparison, debatable offside decisions like the one that went against the US today are very small potatoes. Even if it had knocked you out, it was debatable, not obviously wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1305 "2010-06-23T19:44:28Z")
As it stands, England would face Ghana in the next round, and USA against Germany. If that were the case, every Englishman would be an honorary Yank for 90 minutes at least 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1306 "2010-06-23T19:49:38Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I actually went out for a smoke just at the end of the games and was standing beside a pub. There was a huge roar when the yanks put one in. You still have some friends in the world 😉 Or there are Irishmen who are willing to cheer for a Donovan, no matter which uniform he’s wearing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1307 "2010-06-23T19:50:14Z")
I spoke too soon. Germany score, and now the old grudge match is on the cards… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1308 "2010-06-23T19:50:56Z")
> [@HoboStew](#): > > How exactly would you like us to respond? “Boy it sure was awesome that the refs disallowed 2 goals, either of which would have sent us through but, because of the calls, made us within 2 minutes of elimination and practically gave us a heart attack”? > > We were rooting for our team and got boned over by multiple bad calls. Any fan would have responded in similar fashion. As i’ve already made clear, i’ve got no problem with some bitching over the calls. It’s the conspiracy theory stuff, the “They hate us because we’re American” shit, that i’m most annoyed about. Anyway, whatever. Cry it up. I’ll keep cheering for the American team in the next round, even if their fans make it a somewhat bitter pill. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1309 "2010-06-23T19:51:49Z")
Eta: Nevermind, Colophon just answered my questions ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1310 "2010-06-23T19:53:27Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > As i’ve already made clear, i’ve got no problem with some bitching over the calls. It’s the conspiracy theory stuff, the “They hate us because we’re American” shit, that i’m most annoyed about. > > Anyway, whatever. Cry it up. I’ll keep cheering for the American team in the next round, even if their fans make it a somewhat bitter pill. I believe only _one_ fan here made those two idiotic calls into a Conspiracy. Winning our Group is the best revenge! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1311 "2010-06-23T19:57:33Z")
Goal! Australia 1 Serbia 0. How does this affect things?, Germany and Ghana to the next round?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1312 "2010-06-23T19:58:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > As i’ve already made clear, i’ve got no problem with some bitching over the calls. It’s the conspiracy theory stuff, the “They hate us because we’re American” shit, that i’m most annoyed about. > > Anyway, whatever. Cry it up. I’ll keep cheering for the American team in the next round, even if their fans make it a somewhat bitter pill. Right, like I said, those are a vocal minority, conspiracy buffs who think everything is a conspiracy. They’re doing what they do, because the ingredients are there. If, for example, the 2002 world cup had American referees wrongly overturning French goals to send them home amidst the ridiculous Freedom Fries anti France rhetoric, some vocal French fans would be sure to point out that coincidence. Whatever, its not the majority. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1313 "2010-06-23T19:59:58Z")
I tend to agree with others. The bad call today was simply a bad call. It was not comparable to the cornholing that we took last Friday. But, again, how do you call offsides on something that close? With benefit of replay, we can see it was a bad call, but even at full speed, why call offsides unless you see it definitively? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1314 "2010-06-23T20:01:15Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Goal! Australia 1 Serbia 0. > > How does this affect things?, Germany and Ghana to the next round?😕 Yeah, Australia needs to either score a few more or have Germany score a few more to make up for the goal differential from that first game against Germany. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1315 "2010-06-23T20:02:43Z")
Another Australian Goal 2-0 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1316 "2010-06-23T20:04:41Z")
Two more (or two more by Germany) and they’re in! ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1317 "2010-06-23T20:08:30Z")
One more from Germany and one more from Australia would also do it, I think! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1318 "2010-06-23T20:08:43Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Two more (or two more by Germany) and they’re in! Or two by Ghana, for that matter. If Ghana beats Germany and Australia wins, Ghana and Australia go through. Go the Aussies! I held out no hope of them progressing, and it’s still a long shot, but things have improved in the last 10 minutes or so. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1319 "2010-06-23T20:10:53Z")
And Serbia scores… Things are becoming more problematic for Australia! Followed shortly afterwards by a cancelled goal for Serbia due to off-side. The Serbians are going all out… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1320 "2010-06-23T20:13:07Z")
Yeah, that’s basically killed it for them now. Still, no-one to blame but themselves after the 4-0 loss to Germany, and the draw against Ghana. I was far more disappointed in 2006, when they were knocked out by a last-minute penalty against Italy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=67)