# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1521 "2010-06-25T16:34:23Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Thanks guys. You may not believe this, but I was a math major. Actually I find that entirely believable. Who messes around with mere arithmetic? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1522 "2010-06-25T16:57:18Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Speaking of corny puns and word play, the punnic warriors in some sports blogs and MBs are really pulling for a Paraguay - Netherlands match, since Paraguay is famous for its orange crops, and Netherlands is known as “The Clockwork Orange” 😃 > You could say that they can’t wait to start squeezing all the juice the word combinations would offer… Rhymes, on the other hand, will be hard to come by. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1523 "2010-06-25T17:49:54Z")
It seems to me that wiping the yellow/red card slate clean after the 1st round is a bad idea. I’ve seen far more rough play and fake injury tactics in these 3rd games, since there are no consequences. The Brazil/Portugal game was just a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1524 "2010-06-25T17:52:23Z")
It doesnt get wiped until the quarter finals ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1525 "2010-06-25T18:03:22Z")
It does seem silly that they have this amnesty at an arbitrary point. More sensible would be a rule that you are suspended if you’ve had two yellows in the last _x_ games. _x_=2 if they’re feeling kind, maybe 4 if they want to be mean. I understand why they’re doing it this way - they don’t want star players to miss the final as has happened before, but it seems to be favouritism to those players. Same rules should apply to all players. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1526 "2010-06-25T18:14:30Z")
I agree, especially for some of the really reckless stuff, and also for the real cheating shit like the dive taken in the penalty area by that Portuguese player today. He should have received a red for that, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![HoboStew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@HoboStew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoboStew)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1527 "2010-06-25T18:56:58Z")
That goal that Spain just scored (1-0) was one of the craziest goals I have ever seen. I definitely think it is the furthest away goal I have ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1528 "2010-06-25T18:57:29Z")
Wow, major fuckup by the Chilean goalkeeper allows Spain to take the lead. Really well-taken goal by David Villa. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1529 "2010-06-25T18:58:57Z")
> [@HoboStew](#): > > That goal that Spain just scored (1-0) was one of the craziest goals I have ever seen. I definitely think it is the furthest away goal I have ever seen. Try this one: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOL2mBm-V0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOL2mBm-V0) That’s a young David Seaman getting chipped from 40 yards out. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1530 "2010-06-25T19:06:54Z")
Very nice goal. 2-0 And Chile is down to 10 men. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1531 "2010-06-25T19:08:49Z")
That sending off was ridiculous! ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1532 "2010-06-25T19:09:06Z")
Great goal, but another horrible call by the refs. That was a dive that Greg Louganis could be proud of, and Estrada is gone because of it. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1533 "2010-06-25T19:09:16Z")
It’s hard to tell if there was even contact there, but it certainly wasn’t intentional. Bad luck red there. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1534 "2010-06-25T19:10:19Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Great goal, but another horrible call by the refs. That was a dive that Greg Louganis could be proud of, and Estrada is gone because of it. It’s possible that he clipped his heel, but it certainly wasn’t a card-worthy event. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1535 "2010-06-25T19:10:55Z")
Yeah, very bad call. If the score remains the same, and Switzerland can beat Honduras, Chile will miss out and Switzerland will go through. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1536 "2010-06-25T19:13:28Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > It’s possible that he clipped his heel, but it certainly wasn’t a card-worthy event. He did clip his heel, and it was a yellow for being reckless, which it was. Doesn’t have to be intentional. 2nd yellow = red. Chile is crumbling apart. Spain is a lot better, simply stated. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1537 "2010-06-25T19:14:09Z")
> [@fachverwirrt](#): > > It’s possible that he clipped his heel, but it certainly wasn’t a card-worthy event. No, it wasn’t. And he lay there on the ground like he was poleaxed. That should be a card for him, not Estrada. Incidental contact like that is not a foul, especially when they’re not even on the ball. Whatever FIFA does between now and the next World Cup, they need to address the quality of the referees and the incessant diving. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1538 "2010-06-25T19:15:25Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > He did clip his heel, and it was a yellow for being reckless, which it was. Doesn’t have to be intentional. Reckless? He was running towards the play, not even looking at the Spanish player. Both commentators agreed that it was a bad call. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1539 "2010-06-25T19:18:03Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > No, it wasn’t. And he lay there on the ground like he was poleaxed. That should be a card for him, not Estrada. Incidental contact like that is not a foul, especially when they’re not even on the ball. > > Whatever FIFA does between now and the next World Cup, they need to address the quality of the referees and the incessant diving. His heel was clipped. A foul doesn’t have to be brutal. It doesn’t have to be intentional, either. Reckless is enough. Which the foul in discussion was. Yellow. Also Estrada had been warned again subsequent to his first yellow. He was hanging by a thread from that Ref, and blew it. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1540 "2010-06-25T19:19:09Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Reckless? He was running towards the play, not even looking at the Spanish player. Both commentators agreed that it was a bad call. They’re wrong. Ignoring where you’re running when overtaking a player from behind is reckless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677.md?page=78)