# 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677 "2010-06-10T17:32:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 82
**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1621 "2010-06-26T18:11:16Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No one answered my rugby question, btw. Is there diving in rugby, and if not, why not? Would Harlequins’ [Bloodgate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodgate) scandal count? Though to be fair, part of the scandal was based on the popular belief that this kind of thing doesn’t happen in rugby, IIRC. But I don’t really follow rugby, union or league–maybe someone else can provide a more informed answer? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1622 "2010-06-26T18:22:16Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No one answered my rugby question, btw. Is there diving in rugby, and if not, why not? I thought I’d bump your post because your opinions are really amazing and not at all dull and ill-informed. Please post more of your opinions **Ellis Dee** , they are great. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1623 "2010-06-26T18:27:20Z")
I hope Bill’s heart holds out. All the best USA. I’d really like to see you put this away in style. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1624 "2010-06-26T18:32:09Z")
Yeah, good luck, USA. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1625 "2010-06-26T18:35:48Z")
Oh, great. We’re losing already. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1626 "2010-06-26T18:36:15Z")
Oh dear. Now the States have to pull off another comeback. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1627 "2010-06-26T18:36:55Z")
I’m not even surprised. They seem to let a lot of early goals in. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1628 "2010-06-26T18:37:09Z")
For the love of God. Way to go, giving up one of the softest goals ever and going down early, US. ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1629 "2010-06-26T18:37:16Z")
Poor defending from USA to let him run that far without being challenged, plenty of time to get back in it though. ---
**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1630 "2010-06-26T18:41:18Z")
Maybe if the refs would do a better job of not rewarding dives with foul calls, there would be less of it. As it stands, a team that eschews diving (like USA-Altidore notwithstanding) is at a disadvantage. I must say, though, that I see less diving from USA’s opponents than I see in other matches. As a wild-ass guess, I wonder if they go into the match knowing that the refs will judge them more harshly for flopping because the US players aren’t flopping. The refs definetly need to keep calling fouls, because there is a lot of tackling, but I think they should be encouraged to hand out more yellow cards for blatant acting. And…oh crap, Ghana has a goal already. W.T.F? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1631 "2010-06-26T18:42:33Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No one answered my rugby question, btw. Is there diving in rugby, and if not, why not? No. The aforementioned “Bloodgate” is the closest you’ll get. What is more common is for someone to seek retribution for a bad move. When a load of players are lying on top of each other it is very easy to do stuff that no-one will see. I’ve missed the past page or two and don’t want to try and catch up whilst the USA-Ghana game is on. Has anyone posted a picture of a [bloody Terry Butcher yet](http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/78963485.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892155F29F61288AC1CAC66BCFD27307184865A3130E97B9FE88E9A692F4C337FC07)? ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1632 "2010-06-26T18:46:23Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > My prediction is for the USA to go behind early on but come back and win at the last gasp (maybe even in extra time or on penalties). > > After all, why change the habit of the tournament? 😉 It’s all going to plan so far 🙂 I have a massive £2 on Ghana to be winning at half time, USA to be winning at full time. Odds of 35/1. COME ON USA!!! (but not until after half time!) ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1633 "2010-06-26T18:47:46Z")
How can he miss the next match? I thought yellow cards were wiped after the first round? ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1634 "2010-06-26T18:53:33Z")
Not wiped until the quarter finals I understand. Come on Ghana! ---
**Author:** ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1635 "2010-06-26T18:54:20Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > How can he miss the next match? I thought yellow cards were wiped after the first round? Good question. Cherundolo sacrificed himself to prevent the chance. Ghana outplaying us so far. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1636 "2010-06-26T19:15:34Z")
Yeesh. Not going well. ---
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1637 "2010-06-26T19:44:58Z")
How is a fair tackle different from one that gets a yellow card? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1638 "2010-06-26T19:47:32Z")
Can’t argue with that. Clear penalty. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1639 "2010-06-26T19:48:03Z")
YES. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-fifa-world-cup-south-africa/542677/1640 "2010-06-26T19:48:32Z")
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