# 2010 Masters Pool

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 5, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087 "2010-04-05T23:06:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/1 "2010-04-05T23:06:52Z")

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You have got 100 Doper Dollars to wager on 5-10 players. A bookie (William Hill) in England has posted [these odds](http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/g/7945/Tournament-Winner.html). odds will be listed in the second posts

you get return on your money if your player is in the top 10 after round. if he is leading, you will get 100% of your payback, if he is second, you will get 90% of your payback, 3rd = 80%, etc… all the way to 10% if your player is in 10th place. For the final round, everything is doubled!

For example, lets say that you put $10 on Tiger Woods, and he is leading after Round 1. You get a $50 return. ($10 \* 5 \* 100%). If you put $10 of Fred Couples and he is in 10th place after round 1 you get $110. ($10 \*110 \*10%).

You will get return on your bets if any of your players finish any round within the top 10.

You can go low risk for low rewards by betting on the favorites, or high risk for high rewards, or a blend of the two.

You have to pick at least 5 players, but no more than 10. And please make your bets in $5 increments. You can bet as much as $80 on any player (IE Tiger) and $5 on 4 other player you desire.

Please add an alternate to your picks in case there is a WD. (FYI, Vijay Singh has been a late WD for the last three weeks and Paul Casey WD last week).

Good luck. Listed odds in the next post:

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/2 "2010-04-05T23:10:37Z")

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Note: Tiger was listed at 9/2, but I rounded his odds up to 5/1 for simplicity.

```auto

Tiger Woods	5/1 Francesco Molinari	175/1
Phil Mickelson	12/1 Kevin Na	175/1
Ernie Els	12/1 Rory Sabbatini	200/1
Padraig Harrington	18/1 Trevor Immelman	200/1
Lee Westwood	20/1 Soren Hansen	200/1
Retief Goosen	22/1 Ryo Ishikawa	200/1
Steve Stricker	25/1 Soren Kjeldsen	200/1
Paul Casey	33/1 Steve Marino	200/1
Ian Poulter	33/1 Edoardo Molinari	200/1
Jim Furyk	35/1 David Toms	200/1
Anthony Kim	35/1 Oliver Wilson	200/1
Camilo Villegas	40/1 Chris Wood	200/1
Geoff Ogilvy	45/1 Ben Crane	200/1
Rory McIlroy	45/1 Bill Haas	200/1
Martin Kaymer	45/1 Shingo Katayama	250/1
Charl Schwartzel	45/1 Simon Dyson	250/1
Dustin Johnson	50/1 Steve Flesch	250/1
Nick Watney	60/1 Anders Hansen	250/1
Sean OHair	66/1 Jerry Kelly	250/1
Hunter Mahan	66/1 Marc Leishman	250/1
K.J Choi	66/1 Matteo Manassero	250/1
Chad Campbell	66/1 John Merrick	250/1
Angel Cabrera	70/1 John Rollins	250/1
Henrik Stenson	70/1 John Senden	250/1
Ross Fisher	70/1 Heath Slocum	250/1
Sergio Garcia	75/1 Scott Verplank	250/1
Vijay Singh	80/1 Thongchai Jaidee	250/1
Zach Johnson	80/1 Ricky Barnes	300/1
Robert Allenby	80/1 Jason Dufner	300/1
Mike Weir	90/1 Nathan Green	300/1
Matt Kuchar	90/1 Yuta Ikeda	300/1
Adam Scott	100/1 Bernhard Langer	300/1
Luke Donald	100/1 Tom Watson	300/1
Stewart Cink	100/1 Ryan Palmer	300/1
Tim Clark	110/1 Byeong-Hun An	500/1
Fred Couples	110/1 Brad Benjamin	500/1
Kenny Perry	125/1 Michael Campbell	500/1
Robert Karlsson	125/1 Todd Hamilton	500/1
Graeme McDowell	125/1 Ben Martin	500/1
Alvaro Quiros	125/1 Mark O'Meara	500/1
Louis Oosthuizen	125/1 Nathan Smith	500/1
Justin Leonard	150/1 Ben Crenshaw	1000/1
Ben Curtis	150/1 Raymond Floyd	1000/1
Miguel Angel Jimenez	150/1 Chang-Won Han	1000/1
Y.E. Yang	150/1 Sandy Lyle	1000/1
David Duval	150/1 Larry Mize	1000/1
Brian Gay	150/1 Craig Stadler	1000/1
Lucas Glover	150/1 Ian Woosnam	1000/1
Ryan Moore	150/1			

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/3 "2010-04-05T23:41:19Z")

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Camilo Villegas - $30  
Ernie Els - $30  
Angel Cabrera - $15  
Geoff Ogilvy - $10  
Thongchai Jaidee - $5  
Yuta Ikeda - $5  
Ryo Ishikawa - $5

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/4 "2010-04-06T01:46:55Z")

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Tiger - 20  
Phil - 20  
Retief Goosen - 15  
Anthony Kim - 15  
Rory McIlroy - 15  
Henrik Stenson - 15

Alt - Ernie Els

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/5 "2010-04-06T03:44:35Z")

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Missed th alternate - I’ll take Rory McElroy.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/6 "2010-04-06T03:58:42Z")

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Forgot to say, that the entries will close at 8 am EDT, on Thursday morning. I’ll make my picks tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/7 "2010-04-06T16:59:19Z")

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I am putting $20 apiece on:

Goosen  
Villegas  
Poulter

And $10 each

Allenby  
Jaidee  
Haas  
Edoardo Molinari  
And, FTR, if the odds change at William Hill, they will not change from what I posted in post #2.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/8 "2010-04-06T18:02:03Z")

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Tiger 10  
Phil 10  
Westwood 20  
Casey 5  
Ogilvy 5  
McIlroy 20  
O’Hair 20  
Na 10

alt-Villegas

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/9 "2010-04-06T18:52:27Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> Camilo Villegas - $30  
> Ernie Els - $30  
> Angel Cabrera - $15  
> Geoff Ogilvy - $10  
> Thongchai Jaidee - $5  
> Yuta Ikeda - $5  
> Ryo Ishikawa - $5

Nothing on Shingo Katayama?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/10 "2010-04-06T19:17:38Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Nothing on Shingo Katayama?

I ran out of bucks…

It’s an awfully un-American roster, isn’t it? I didn’t notice that at all while I was picking. I don’t think that Tiger can come back from that long of a layoff, let alone with the emotional baggage he is carrying. Phil is playing for shit so far this year. Augusta just isn’t kind to Steve Stricker’s game. There really aren’t any Americans that I think have a good shot, and the odds table confirms my feeling. I can’t understand why Tiger and Phil are favorites - it makes no sense, and logically, it is a terrible value for your betting dollar.

The last three guys are all great young players who are a gift at those odds. All I need is for one of them to come through and I’ll rake in the dough.

There, I’ve given away my strategy. I should have waited until Thursday morning to make my picks.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/11 "2010-04-06T20:52:52Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> I ran out of bucks…
> 
> It’s an awfully un-American roster, isn’t it?  
> …  
> I don’t think that Tiger can come back from that long of a layoff, let alone with the emotional baggage he is carrying.

Actually, wouldn’t history suggest that an un-American roster would have pretty good chances at the Masters?

I probably wouldn’t have picked Tiger to win, but given the formula awarding points for top 10 finishes, I figured I had to include him.

Here’s a couple of side predictions. Tiger finishes in the top 5. And we don’t get 10 Dopers to participate in this worthy endeavor. Hope I’m wrong on both counts!

Thanks for running this.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/12 "2010-04-07T01:40:33Z")

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20 - singh  
20 - els  
20 - mahan  
20 - furyk  
20 - woods

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/13 "2010-04-07T18:38:34Z")

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Tiger Woods 15  
Phil Mickelson 15  
Ernie Els 10  
Lee Westwood 10  
Padraig Harrington 10  
Retief Goosen 10  
Ian Poulter 10  
Steve Stricker 5  
Jim Furyk 5  
Camilo Villegas 5  
Paul Casey 5

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/14 "2010-04-08T01:36:43Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> Tiger Woods 15  
> Phil Mickelson 15  
> Ernie Els 10  
> Lee Westwood 10  
> Padraig Harrington 10  
> Retief Goosen 10  
> Ian Poulter 10  
> Steve Stricker 5  
> Jim Furyk 5  
> Camilo Villegas 5  
> Paul Casey 5

that’s 11 players **phungi** , unless you check back I will put your Paul Casey money with Steve Stricker. I’ll PM you  
And a reminder, everyone needs to get your entries submitted by 8 am edt, 7 am cdt.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/15 "2010-04-08T02:48:49Z")

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Sorry about that…

Tiger Woods 15  
Phil Mickelson 15  
Ernie Els 10  
Lee Westwood 10  
Padraig Harrington 10  
Retief Goosen 10  
Ian Poulter 10  
Jim Furyk 10  
Steve Stricker 5  
Camilo Villegas 5

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/16 "2010-04-08T06:34:43Z")

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Ernie Els 20  
Anthony Kim 20  
Ben Curtis 5  
Charl Schwartzel 10  
Tiger Woods 10  
Jim Furyk 20  
Hunter Mahan 5  
Lee Westwood 10

alt- Geoff Ogilvy

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/17 "2010-04-08T10:47:49Z")

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Martin Kaymer - $30  
Tiger Woods - $25  
Ernie Els - $20  
KC Choi - $10  
Thongchai Jaidee - $10  
Zach Johnson - $5

Alternate - Phil Mickelson

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/18 "2010-04-08T15:45:39Z")

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Here is a summary of the picks:

6 posters wagered a total of $100 on Tiger Woods at 5/1  
5 posters wagered a total of $100 on Ernie Els at 12/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $55 on Camilo Villegas at 40/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $50 on Jim Furyk at 35/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $45 on Phil Mickelson at 12/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $45 on Retief Goosen at 22/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $40 on Lee Westwood at 20/1  
2 posters wagered a total of $35 on Anthony Kim at 35/1  
2 posters wagered a total of $35 on Rory McIlroy at 45/1  
2 posters wagered a total of $30 on Ian Poulter at 33/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $30 on Martin Kaymer at 45/1  
2 posters wagered a total of $25 on Hunter Mahan at 66/1  
3 posters wagered a total of $25 on Thongchai Jaidee at 250/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $20 on Sean OHair at 66/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $20 on Vijay Singh at 80/1  
2 posters wagered a total of $15 on Geoff Ogilvy at 45/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $15 on Angel Cabrera at 70/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $15 on Henrik Stenson at 70/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Padraig Harrington at 18/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Charl Schwartzel at 45/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on K.J Choi at 66/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Robert Allenby at 80/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Kevin Na at 175/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Edoardo Molinari at 200/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $10 on Bill Haas at 200/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Steve Stricker at 25/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Paul Casey at 33/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Zach Johnson at 80/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Ben Curtis at 150/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Ryo Ishikawa at 200/1  
1 Poster wagered a total of $5 on Yuta Ikeda at 300/1

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/19 "2010-04-08T15:53:34Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
>
> Here is a summary of the picks:

What are there - 8 of us?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-masters-pool/535087/20 "2010-04-08T16:02:31Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
>
> What are there - 8 of us?

Yes 8 posters entered. Unfortunately you were correct in your prediction in an earlier post. We will see how the rest of your predictions do this coming weekend.

And FTR, I was the only entrant who has no money on either Woods or Els.

phungi nearly went with chalk on his bet. He bet on ten players, no one at longer odd than 40/1.

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