# 2010 NFC North Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 16, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471 "2010-08-16T23:36:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/381 "2010-12-13T15:59:57Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The Lions trench workers, the defensive and offensive lines won for them today. Agreed. Detroit’s defensive line, even missing Vanden Bosch, was nasty as hell. And, the offensive line was good enough to keep the one TD drive going. The playcalling on the Packers’ last drive was head-scratching. They were making good progress down the field with 10-yard patterns. Why, when you get within the 30, do you decide to try an off-tackle run, against a D-line which you haven’t been able to penetrate all day, using Brandon Jackson, who’s been a disappointment all year? And then, on 4th and 1, why, oh why, do you throw the home-run ball? Grrrrr. More evidence that McCarthy is a maroon. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/382 "2010-12-13T16:53:03Z")
That pretty much killed the Packers wild card hopes, IMO. they could still win the division, of course, but I don’t really see them beating the Pats in Foxboro next week, even with Rodgers, so it is looking bleak. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/383 "2010-12-13T17:01:34Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > That pretty much killed the Packers wild card hopes, IMO. they could still win the division, of course, but I don’t really see them beating the Pats in Foxboro next week, even with Rodgers, so it is looking bleak. I tend to agree. They need to win out, and get some help…or need a ton of help, if they don’t win out. Possible, but not likely, with Rodgers at the helm. If he misses even one game, I think they’re officially toast. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/384 "2010-12-13T18:23:10Z")
Yow, I was hoping the Bears would do better than that. You would think that the Bears’ defensive speed would match up well with the Patriots’ dink and dunk passing, but the snow just cancelled the D’s ability to do anything but get burned all up and down the field. The Bears may be exposed now unless they can figure out a way to make better plays in the snow, in December – you know at Soldier Field. Fortunately, The Packers lost to the Lions in a very exciting (zzzzz) 7-3 game. Thank you Arron for not sliding after getting the first down. After watching the video of the Metrodome collapsing, I’m sure I’m asking the same important question that everyone else is thinking: The roof may have collapsed, but are the speakers that the Vikings use to artificially pump up the crowd noise OK? I’d hate to see those things damaged. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/385 "2010-12-14T14:27:36Z")
Boy, you ain’t kidding, **IG**. I love how all the sports reporters are talking about how the move to Detroit was a huge boon to the Giants because of the crowd noise. “Oh, they mean the speakers’ noise,” I said to myself. The fans are loud, but not that loud. And we moved a couple of years ago, so now I sit directly under one of those speakers. Ick. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/386 "2010-12-14T15:33:44Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > Boy, you ain’t kidding, **IG**. I love how all the sports reporters are talking about how the move to Detroit was a huge boon to the Giants because of the crowd noise. “Oh, they mean the speakers’ noise,” I said to myself. > > The fans are loud, but not that loud. And we moved a couple of years ago, so now I sit directly under one of those speakers. Ick. Ford Field is not a very loud stadium. The Rolling Stones love playing Ford Field because of the acoustics, and I don’t know if that means the crowd noise doesn’t get to the field, or that the fans haven’t had any reason to lustily make noise for any reason at all, but it’s like going to church. During a game, you can hold a normal conversation with the person next to you when the other team’s offense gets into your red zone. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/387 "2010-12-14T16:47:06Z")
There must be a lot of conversing going on during Lions games. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/388 "2010-12-14T16:48:53Z")
It looks like the division race is over, by the way. Congratulations to the Bears. They don’t exactly look like a powerhouse, but they’re the best of a bad division and the only team from the Norris that will even make the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/389 "2010-12-14T17:15:23Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It looks like the division race is over, by the way. Congratulations to the Bears. They don’t exactly look like a powerhouse, but they’re the best of a bad division and the only team from the Norris that will even make the playoffs. I would say the Packers still have a chance (if Rodgers is healthy), but only if the Vikings can beat the Bears next week. And after last night I don’t have much hope for that. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/390 "2010-12-14T17:17:10Z")
I wouldn’t bet on us to beat a college team right now. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/391 "2010-12-16T03:18:22Z")
Vikings: [Karma’s a bitch](http://chzupnextinsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/funny-sports-pictures-karma1.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/392 "2010-12-16T04:57:30Z")
According to Matt Flynn, Rodgers is out and Flynn is starting. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/393 "2010-12-16T05:04:42Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Vikings: [Karma’s a bitch](http://chzupnextinsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/funny-sports-pictures-karma1.jpg). What a ridiculous attempt at a joke that is. The Metrodome collapsing is somehow “karma” for Percy’s migraines? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/394 "2010-12-16T05:07:42Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > According to Matt Flynn, Rodgers is out and Flynn is starting. If that’s the case, the Patriots will win by 50. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/395 "2010-12-16T05:12:22Z")
The Vikings have signed Patrick Ramsey, by the way, and he might well play on monday. T-Jack is out, Favre is not likely to be ready yet, and Joe Webb has a hamstring injury. The Vikings are completely out of quarterbacks. This game against the Bears will also be played on the University of Minnesota campus at TCF stadium (home of the Gophers). It’s will be the first Vikings home game played outside since 1981, and it’s going to be cold. Could this season get any more bizarre for the Purple? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/396 "2010-12-16T05:54:15Z")
TCF stadium might not work out: > **[Sources: Vikes-Bears stadium a fluid situation](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5922532)** > > The same winter weather that rendered the Metrodome unusable for the Vikings' game against the Bears on Monday night may derail plans of playing at the University of Minnesota's open-air stadium and cause the game to move indoors to Indianapolis. I wonder why not just go to Lambeau (if TCF doesn’t work out)? It’s basically neutral ground for both. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/397 "2010-12-16T12:39:34Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If that’s the case, the Patriots will win by 50. Yahoo pools has you pick exact scores for SNF and MNF – I’m calling this one as 66-3. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/398 "2010-12-16T14:15:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I pick the Vikings to win the division again, and I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that the Lions will shock the League by having a decent season and maybe even getting a WC berth. > > I think the Packers and Bears will slug it out for dead last, though neither will be terrible, just mediocre. I think the Packers will still be able to score, but their defense will be swiss cheese, and with the loss of Jolly, their pass rush will take a hit as well. Expect to see the packers playing from behind a lot, which means A-Rodge will be running for his life and taking a lot of sacks again. > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I wouldn’t bet on us to beat a college team right now. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/399 "2010-12-16T16:35:17Z")
There’s wrong. There’s dead wrong. And then there is Dio wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfc-north-discussion-thread/550471/400 "2010-12-16T16:50:29Z")
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